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   From: mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us   
      
   In article   
      
   Cornelis Tromp  wrote:   
   >   
   > In article    
   > Shadow  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > .... If you exclude 9/11, which is looking   
   > > more and more like an inside job,   
   >   
   > Only to conspiracy nuts.   
   >   
   > > the amount of people blowing up   
   > > buildings and crashing planes in the US is insignificant compared to   
   > > the amount of people that could be saved if they had a reasonable   
   > > education and health service.   
   >   
   > You think those lives are insignificant? Those people murdered in   
   > San Bernardino, California are just not worth even thinking about   
   > for you?   
      
   Well, they were mostly democrats at a social services center for   
   below average intelligence people.   
      
   A social services center that catered to largely illegal aliens   
   getting free care on the backs of hard working Americans.   
      
   They won't be voting for crooks like Jerry Brown any more.   
   That's a plus.   
      
   > Some calculus of indifference you expound there.   
   >   
   > > The second option is MUCH cheaper, but   
   > > would mean less cocaine parties, private jets, yachts and islands for   
   > > the people that fuel "the war on X".   
   >   
   > There are certainly abuses, but your childish dismissal of reality   
   > isn't helpful at all, and no one with any ethics would support your   
   > call for anarchy.   
   >   
   > > Your choice, or maybe it's too   
   > > late to choose.   
   >   
   > I choose to deal with reality, as bad as it can be at times, you   
   > apparently want to wallow in fantasy. Fantasy is unlikely to make   
   > for a better world.   
   >   
   > I hope that Apple wins in this fight against the FBI, but their   
   > security/encryption procedures are pretty shitty. If Apple does   
   > lose this right I hope that it spurs them and others to start using   
   > better security, end to end encryption and allowing the customers   
   > to determine how much security they want, with optionally long key   
   > lengths.   
      
   The security can't be that good if an Israeli hacker company   
   that pedals spy-vs-spy toys to the police has figured it out.   
      
   And before you all start screaming anti-semitism, the Israelis   
   are no better than common black or Mexican street gangs.  They   
   have no natural resources.  They produce no products in high   
   demand by the common world markets.  The things they sell are   
   drugs, deliberately malware infected software, modified   
   electronic components with spying capabilities, theft and basic   
   thuggery including strong-armed threats and murder.   
      
   Makes a person wonder who the good guys are when American cops   
   are buying stuff from them - to use against you.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)