XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: horace@horacealgiers.com   
      
   On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 19:51:00 -0700, Savageduck wrote:   
      
   > Agreed.   
   > "He of Many Socks" has taken it upon himself to extrapolate what both   
   > of us wrote to something neither of us wrote, or implied. I only   
   > mentioned Verizon because my carrier is Verizon and my iPhones have   
   > been bought from them.   
   > What I said was it was Apple, not Verizon collecting the diagnostic &   
   > usage data, and what the settings options for the automatic sending, or   
   > not of that data to Apple.   
   > I found no reference to Verizon collecting any diagnostic & usage data at   
   all.   
      
   Both of you seem to have jumped to conclusions that "I" never jumped to.   
   What I said was "The IQ Agent software runs in the background, and the user   
   is not usually aware of its presence unless the implementation includes an   
   on-off switch".   
      
   I *literally* said that. Verbatim. It's a verbatim quote from one of the   
   references. It is a fact.   
      
   You and tlvp can *assume* I said something else, but that's *exactly* what   
   I said.   
      
   I also said you and tlvp "found this out", which was wrong. So *that* part   
   of my statement is incorrect. You found nothing out, other than you and he   
   found nothing about Verizon collecting or not collecting the data.   
      
   So you are welcome to repeat that you found nothing out, and you're welcome   
   to call out my mistake of thinking you found something out, but the actual   
   thing that I said is 100% verifiably true.   
      
   You just didn't know it and I *though* you had figured it out - but you   
   hadn't, and *that* was my only mistake, which I accept. This is Usenet,   
   after all, and we don't vette our writing like we do our research papers,   
   but at least *what* I said was 100% a fact which is...   
      
   "The IQ Agent software runs in the background, and the user is not usually   
   aware of its presence unless the implementation includes an on-off switch"   
      
   In "my" case, T-Mobile included the on/off switch.   
   Whether or not Verizon (or their resellers) included the on/off switch or   
   even whether or not they included the software, you don't know.   
      
   Anyone on Android could figure it out in a second though...just as I did.   
      
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