XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net   
      
   nospam wrote:   
      
   >> So, I predict that the Pixel phones will fail miserably in the market   
   >> unless the price is dropped (the performance is fine).   
   >   
   > as usual, you'll be wrong.   
      
   I can only predict the future.   
      
   I openly predict that the Pixel won't sell well.   
   I predict that's because the price:performance is as bad as it is for   
   iPhones (which, I flatly state is a horrendous ratio).   
      
   Time will tell if my prediction comes true or if it won't come true.   
   Google marketing certainly knows what they're doing, so, they've taken the   
   risks into account.   
      
   > the best selling phones are the iphone and samsung galaxy series, which   
   > outsell the cheaper crap, by a *lot*.   
      
   When you talk about best selling phones, you have to openly state the   
   metric, since I'll wager there are a *lot* of no-name phones being sold (an   
   extremely technical friend of mine just bought 10 no-name phones, for   
   example, and used ten 1-cent FreedomPOP SIM cards to make ten cars each   
   have their own roving web site using DDNS).   
      
   Even this friend's water tanks are their own SSH & web servers.   
   His chicken coop is its own web server.   
   Even his treehouse has its own web server.   
      
   All with cheap no-name Android phones.   
      
   Since you're almost always wrong, I simply googled for "the best selling   
   android phones"...   
      
   In this list, by total number of sold metrics, the Nokia phones, by far,   
   outsell all other mobile phones (including Apple phones).   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones   
      
   The Samsung E1100 is in 7th place by the metric of units sold, for example,   
   and Apple doesn't show up until you get to 12th place.   
      
   However, if you look *only* at recent sales, it is very true that Samsung   
   has the most phones sold with more than 20% of the market share, while   
   Apple has about 15% of the market share, depending on how far back you want   
   to look.   
      
   However, if you look at the number of phones sold by "others", it dwarfs   
   the number of phones sold by Samsung and Apple *combined*, so, the problem   
   is that the *metric* used to define which phones "outsell the cheaper   
   crap".   
      
   In fact, the "cheaper crap" seems to outsell the Samsung by three times,   
   given that Q2-2106 shows 223 million non-samsung phones sold to 77 million   
   samsung phones sold (not including Apple's 44 million phones sold in the   
   same time period).   
      
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