XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   Algeria Horan  wrote   
   > nospam wrote   
      
   >>> So, I predict that the Pixel phones will fail miserably in the   
   >>> market unless the price is dropped (the performance is fine).   
      
   >> as usual, you'll be wrong.   
      
   > I can only predict the future.   
      
   You can't do that either.   
      
   > I openly predict that the Pixel won't sell well.   
      
   Nothing like the original pathetic excuse for a troll at the top.   
      
   > I predict that's because the price:performance   
   > is as bad as it is for iPhones   
      
   How odd that the high end iphones and high end   
   samsungs sell so well with that price:performance.   
      
   > (which, I flatly state is a horrendous ratio).   
      
   How odd that the high end iphones and high end   
   samsungs sell so well with that price:performance.   
      
   > Time will tell if my prediction comes true or if it won't come true.   
      
   We already know that you don’t have a fucking clue   
   because all those high end iphones and high end   
   samsungs sell so well with that price:performance.   
      
   The Pixels may not do that well, but that   
   wont be because of the price:performance.   
      
   > Google marketing certainly knows what they're doing,   
      
   They clearly didn’t with the Nexus line, or Glass etc etc etc.   
      
   > so, they've taken the risks into account.   
      
   There is no risk, Google has money to burn/piss against the wall.   
      
   >> the best selling phones are the iphone and samsung   
   >> galaxy series, which outsell the cheaper crap, by a *lot*.   
      
   > When you talk about best selling phones, you have to openly state the   
   > metric, since I'll wager there are a *lot* of no-name phones being sold   
   > (an extremely technical friend of mine just bought 10 no-name phones,   
   > for example, and used ten 1-cent FreedomPOP SIM cards to make ten   
   > cars each have their own roving web site using DDNS).   
      
   > Even this friend's water tanks are their own SSH & web servers.   
   > His chicken coop is its own web server.   
   > Even his treehouse has its own web server.   
      
   > All with cheap no-name Android phones.   
      
   > Since you're almost always wrong, I simply   
   > googled for "the best selling android phones"...   
      
   > In this list, by total number of sold metrics, the Nokia phones,   
   > by far, outsell all other mobile phones (including Apple phones).   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones   
      
   > The Samsung E1100 is in 7th place by the metric of units sold, for   
   > example, and Apple doesn't show up until you get to 12th place.   
      
   > However, if you look *only* at recent sales, it is very true that   
   > Samsung has the most phones sold with more than 20% of   
   > the market share, while Apple has about 15% of the market   
   > share, depending on how far back you want to look.   
      
   > However, if you look at the number of phones sold by "others", it dwarfs   
   > the number of phones sold by Samsung and Apple *combined*, so, the problem   
   > is that the *metric* used to define which phones "outsell the cheaper   
   > crap".   
      
   > In fact, the "cheaper crap" seems to outsell the Samsung by three times,   
   > given that Q2-2106 shows 223 million non-samsung phones sold to 77 million   
   > samsung phones sold (not including Apple's 44 million phones sold in the   
   > same time period).   
      
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