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   Carlos E. R. to Ragnusen Ultred   
   Re: Does anyone know what phone the now-   
   23 Mar 18 01:56:55   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2018-03-22 02:39, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:   
   > In article , micky wrote:   
   >   
   >> I wouldn't think it matters.   The cell system has to know where every   
   >> phone is or when someone called you, it would have to send out the ring   
   >> signal from every cell tower in the world.   
   >   
   > Of course, what you're talking about are the 'voice-related' cellular   
   > signals, where I agree with you that the ability to track the voice part of   
   > the cellular system is the same for all phones, but what's different is the   
   > ability of others to track you based on the many different types of   
   > non-voice-related differences in the cell phones themselves.   
      
   No, it is the same thing. Actually, it does not matter, as what you call   
   "the voice system" is always active and is calibrated to gather this   
   information automatically and continuously.   
      
   And another thing: they can track you days after you were there. Or   
   years after: the only requirement is that the provider stores the logs   
   from every tower. Then a court order to obtain the data and calculate   
   the position.   
      
   There is nothing you can do to avoid this, AFAIK.   
      
      
   > There's no sense guessing.   
   > We'll just have to wait for the phone information to be public knowledge.   
   >   
   > What I will say is that anyone who commits a crime while carrying a   
   > cellphone, is not all that smart, unless they felt an untoward sense of   
   > security about using that cellphone, especially during and even /after/   
   > committing the crime.   
   >   
   > It's my premise that it's even worse if it's a so-called smartphone.   
      
   For that they need access to a different data set. The phone must have   
   the GPS chip active, some application requesting the exact position, and   
   the phone sending that information back to somewhere - like Google,   
   which does that tracking.   
      
      
   --   
   Cheers,   
          Carlos E.R.   
      
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