XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
XPost: comp.mobile.ipad
From: arlen@arlen.com
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 23:55:45 +0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:
> I donĒt disagree that Apple SHOULD make a better effort to protect oneĒs
> privacy...
Hi badgolferman,
Thank you for that reasonable open-minded statement.
I don't think there is any other reasonable answer, so it's with relief
that I saw you agree (my facts are always correct and my logic based on
those facts is generally impeccable, but everyone carries different WEIGHTS
to the balance ... where ... for example ... how many bugs is too many?).
For me, it's Apple's BAL:ANCE between ADVERTISING & TESTING I deplore.
It's almost as if Apple doesn't have enough money to TEST for privacy.
o Apple seems to only have tons of money to ADVERTISE privacy.
Personally, I feel Apple, if they're that hard up for money that they can't
sufficiently test their software, should simply spend LESS on advertising
privacy so that they can use their limited resources to TESTING for privacy
flaws. :)
It's the incongruity that I deplore.
> but at the same time I contend they do a better and faster job
> responding to privacy breaches than other similar companies.
As open-minded thoughtful adults sometimes do...
... We are simply going to have to disagree on that assessment. :)
I don't wish to belabor this privacy issue since we covered it in GREAT
detail in this thread, where I simply say that anyone who states that
iPhones are "more private" than Android has a LOT of 'splaining to do
(since they simply are not any more private due to a TON of factors).
What is the factual truth about PRIVACY differences or similarities between
the Android & iOS mobile phone ecosystems?
I think the fact you _think_ they're more private, is exactly why Apple
doesn't bother to put more money into testing, when they instead, put tons
of money into advertising privacy.
All that matters, I posit, to Apple, is that people THINK it's more private.
That's enough said as my fact-based argument is _already_ in the thread
referenced above, where we clearly completely disagree (& that's OK):
o You think iOS devices more private than Android
While...
o I think, only at the default, can any case be made for iOS privacy
o At the intelligent-user level, Android _easily_ is (far) more private
o And yet, at the carrier level, neither is more private
In the end, the only safe argument is that the privacy, overall,
between the two platforms, is "about the same".
> Most people I know donĒt give a whit about their privacy anyway. The
> evidence is all around us, just look at Facebook and how people air their
> dirty laundry.
I don't disagree that most people don't seem to be cognizant of the myriad
ways their privacy is breached.
Me?
o I care about privacy ... but ... I also realize a phone is a tool.
o I don't want lose power for advertised privacy that I don't get anyway.
It was helpful to discuss this topic with you, where you TAUGHT me
something which I will try to use, moving forward.
THANKS!
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