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   arlen holder to nospam   
   Re: How to get up & running on a free pu   
   17 Feb 19 18:06:21   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.freeware, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   XPost: comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: arlen@arlen.com   
      
   On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:27:06 -0500, nospam wrote:   
      
   > setting up a vpn server is actually very easy, and then you   
   > just 'point' the client at it, as you would with a vpn service.   
      
   Hi nospam,   
      
   *PLEASE PLAY YOUR SILLY APPLE MARKETING GAMES ELSEWHERE NOSPAM*   
      
   I know exactly the silly Apple Marketing Propaganda games you're playing,   
   even as the beginners here likely do not.   
      
   By you playing your silly Apple Marketing Propaganda games, you're only   
   going to _confuse_ the poor beginner - who doesn't realize the silly games   
   you play constantly nospam.   
      
   The difference between you and adults is very simple:   
   o You post with absolutely _zero_ helpful intent.   
   And...   
   o You can _only_ speak EXACTLY what Apple Marketing wants you to.   
      
   For example...   
   o Let's see _your_ tutorial for setting up a vpn server.   
   o Let's see _you_ use the Apple client for the openvpn protocol.   
      
   HINT: You've never written a single helpful tutorial in your life.   
   HINT: The built-in Apple clients are brain dead with respect to openvpn.   
      
   Note to beginners:   
   1. This nospam guy does not post with _helpful_ intent.   
   2. This nospam guy only spouts Apple Marketing Propaganda.   
   3. To understand him, is to understand Apple Marketing Propaganda.   
      
   To wit:   
   A. He knows that Apple has a built-in VPN client   
   B. But he omits that it's brain dead with respect to the openvpn protocol   
   C. And he claims server setup is easy; but it's off completely off topic   
      
   To understand nospam is to know these two facts about him:   
   a. He _never_ posts with _any_ purposefully helpful intent, and,   
   b. He can _only_ spew Apple Marketing Propaganda.   
      
   Therefore, he _denies_ all facts out of hand, that don't fit perfectly into   
   his imaginary belief system which "is" Apple Marketing Propaganda.   
      
   >> But nowadays, it's _really _simple (it's just two files).   
   > actually only one file, sometimes none.   
      
   You childishly post with _zero_ helpful intent, nospam.   
      
   While we all know that Apple provides a (brain dead, IMHO), client,   
   the fact that it's brain dead, and the fact that it's proprietary, is lost   
   on you nospam.   
      
   All you _can_ do is spout meaningless Apple Marketing Propaganda.   
      
   The fact that the "two files" can be bundled into one is something we all   
   know, nospam, where, for example, in this helpful suggestion from Chris in   
   Makiti, it's likely only one file "bundle":   
   o What are the most popular and safe VPN apps?   
      
      
   However, the _reason_ for explaining it's "two" files in openvpn is that   
   we're trying to be helpful to beginners who may have trouble separating the   
   two concepts of:   
   o The client, from   
   o The configuration   
      
   For example, for the openvpn protocol...   
   o The user can download _any_ desired openvpn client application   
   o And the user can download _any_ desired openvpn config file   
      
   Notice that you, nospam, always follow Apple Marketing Propaganda,   
   so I fully understand why you lean toward not only proprietary solutions,   
   but also to other protocols than the openvpn protocol.   
      
   *PLEASE PLAY YOUR SILLY APPLE MARKETING GAMES ELSEWHERE NOSPAM*   
      
   Specifically, a lot of beginners get hung up on the _difference_,   
   where, for example, VPN providers try to get you to use their proprietary   
   client, and where I'm trying to be helpful by suggesting that _any_ openvpn   
   VPN client that the user likes should work.   
      
   Hence, I am being purposefully helpful for beginners by distinguishing that   
   they don't need to use a proprietary openvpn client if they don't want to.   
      
   You're just trying to "prove me wrong", which is a childish trait of yours,   
   where you _should_ be spending your efforts being _purposefully_ helpful.   
      
   >> 1. All you need is a "text file" (called something like filename.ovpn).   
   >> 2. And the VPN client (called something like "openvpn.apk")   
   >   
   > #2 is not required.   
      
   Notice to adults.   
      
   What nospam is doing, which is _all_ that nospam does, is:   
   a. He's purposefully playing silly games around Apple Marketing Propaganda   
   b. He's clearly not posting with _any_ helpful intent whatsoever   
   c. With the result that his posts are intended to confuse beginners.   
      
   Remember, nospam _never_ posts with purposefully helpful intent.   
   o His only goal appears to be to spew Apple Marketing Propaganda   
      
   The easiest way to prove nospam wrong is just using these 3 words:   
   o Name just one   
      
   To wit, tell us, nospam, how are you going to use the openvpn protocol   
   without installing an openvpen client on _any_ platform?   
      
   Tell us nospam: What openvpn client is native on any platform?   
   o Name just one   
      
   >> That's it.   
   >> o Bear in mind the process is the same on any computer.   
   >   
   > nope.   
      
   Again, nospam is playing silly Apple Marketing Propaganda games.   
      
   >> a. All you need is a text file from any public vpn service   
   >   
   > not always.   
      
   Constantly, nospam plays his silly Apple Marketing Propaganda games.   
      
   >> Once you're "good" at VPN, you can make _plenty_ of decisions.   
   >> o Those decisions could take the rest of your life to hone   
   >   
   > nonsense, and there's nothing to be 'good' at.   
      
   Notice that nospam _never_ posts with helpful intent.   
   This guy nospam simply denies everything he doesn't like out of hand.   
      
   The best way to understand nospam's posts is simply to think of nospam as   
   being paid by Apple Marketing to simply deny anything that is said on this   
   ng that doesn't fit perfectly into the Apple Marketing Propaganda.   
      
   >> For example, let me save you weeks of effort picking "protocols":   
   >> o Use the "openvpn" protocol   
   >   
   > openvpn is one of many choices, not always the best one, and quickly   
   > becoming not a very good one.   
      
   Hehhehheh,.,.. take a _guess_ as to why nopspam says that?   
      
   HINT: Apple native clients are brain dead with respect to openvpn support.   
      
   *PLEASE PLAY YOUR SILLY APPLE MARKETING GAMES ELSEWHERE NOSPAM*   
      
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