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   From: nospam@nospam.invalid   
      
   In article , Mike Easter   
    wrote:   
      
   > >   
   > >> The vast majority of people do not need a VPN service and shouldn't be   
   > >> using one.   
   > >   
   > > false.   
   > >   
   > >> There is a lot more popular interest in VPN than there should be.   
   > >   
   > > false.   
   > >   
   > >> Here's an article with a 'contrary' POV.   
   > >>   
   > >> https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29  Don't use VPN   
   > >> services.   
   > >   
   > > complete rubbish.   
   > >   
   > Your rebuttal or counterargument lacks any substance.   
      
   the article is what lacks substance and also contradicts itself.   
      
   > The comments section of the article, of which there are many, did a much   
   > better job of debating the points.   
      
   yep, several comments showed just how bogus the article really is.   
      
   the main problem is that it lumps all vpns together and because a few   
   are bad, it assumes all of them are.   
      
   it is also incorrect about how they work.   
      
   like everything, some vpns are good and others are bad. some are in the   
   middle. different vpn services prioritize different things. no vpn is   
   best for everyone or in every situation. many people use more than one,   
   depending on the situation.   
      
   some vpns log and will happily hand them over, while others do not log   
   and can't hand over anything.   
      
   some vpns are a front to get marketing data, such as facebook's.   
      
   it depends on one's threat model. using a vpn used at a public hotspot   
   to avoid someone at the next table snooping is very different than   
   using a vpn to while committing a crime which is different than using a   
   vpn to circumvent geoblocks.   
      
   it also makes some factually incorrect statements:   
     VPNs don't provide security. They are just a glorified proxy.   
   ...   
     So yes, VPN services do serve a purpose - it's just one that benefits   
     the provider, not you.   
      
   that is bullshit. they *do* provide security and they *do* benefit the   
   user.   
      
   > The article concedes that there is a 'place' for some VPN,   
      
   in other words, it's contradicting itself.   
      
   > while it also   
   > makes arguments for alternatives with suggestions about how those   
   > alternatives might be accomplished.   
      
   proxies have their place but are not a replacement for vpn.   
      
   > It also mentions the 'dangers' of indiscriminate or unwise VPN use.   
      
   none of which is realistic. vpn providers don't 'mess with your   
   traffic'. if they did, they would find they're losing customers.   
      
   nobody said a vpn is guaranteed safety.   
      
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