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   arlen holder to Mike Easter   
   Re: How to get up & running on a free pu   
   17 Feb 19 20:31:41   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.freeware, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   XPost: comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: arlen@arlen.com   
      
   On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:29:55 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:   
      
   >> What they literally said was that you should use a proxy instead.   
   >   
   > No; actually he /did/ actually mention the word proxy as one alternative   
   > for certain circumstances, but he also more expressly mentioned the   
   > alternative of setting up one's own VPN for some circumstances.   
      
   Hi Mike,   
   Yes. I know. I know exactly what the article said.  ;)   
      
   My point was to be a bit humourful' in stating that they essentially said   
   to use a VPN as a proxy just after they said not to use a VPN as a proxy.   
      
   That bit of irony aside, setting up one's own VPN is, as you are well   
   aware, is a solution to a completely different problem set than the   
   relatively simple problem set of a proxy to obfuscate your IP address.   
      
   Since I'm a solutions-based person, as you're aware, Mike, I only want a   
   solution, where, in the case of nospam, he denies every fact flatly, out of   
   hand, but he can't provide a solution.   
      
   So what good is denying the existing working solution ... without ...   
   o Without providing a working solution as an alternative?   
      
   That is, it's well & good to advise:   
   o "Don't use VPN if all you want is an IP proxy" ... if ... if ... if ...   
   o That's great advice ... if ... if all you use is a web browser.   
      
   But, we're on Usenet right now.   
   o What free proxy works for free Usenet posting?   
      
   > That VPS alternative was also discussed in the comments section   
   > including those who had done so and what their costs were.  Also the   
   > comments addressed the limitations or drawbacks of the VPS as well.   
      
   My main point was that the article was factual, but it doesn't provide   
   anything actionable for using a free proxy for free Usenet posting.   
      
   The article is fine if all you use is a web browser   
   o That's because free "proxy" web browsers abound   
      
   Furthermore, even for FINGERPRINTING, if all you use is a web browser, you   
   can get around a lot of the fingerprinting by using privacy based browser   
   settings, and by using privacy based browsers, and by using any one browser   
   for only one web site ,etc., all of which I _already_ do, Mike.   
      
   I have, oh, I don't count them, but at least a _score_ of browsers, Mike,   
   where each browser is set up specifically to do 1 thing & 1 thing only.   
      
   That's to limit the ability of "adversaries" from "fingerprinting" my   
   browser activities (which is one of the points of your helpful article).   
      
   However, your otherwise helpful article, in advising NOT to use VPN   
   services as a "glorified proxy" did NOT provide an alternative solution.   
      
   In summary, your alternative POV is great, but not actionable for Usenet,   
   unless or until we can find an alternative proxy solution for Usenet.   
      
   I'm all about actual actionable SOLUTIONS; hence this question for all:   
   o What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?   
      
      
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