XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.freeware, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   XPost: comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: arlen@arlen.com   
      
   On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:52:12 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:   
      
   > I don't know what you are doing that makes you feel that you need to   
   > obscure your IP from your nntp provider.   
      
   Hi Mike Easter,   
      
   You got that completely wrong. :)   
   o I'm not sure why, as normally you can see the obvious.   
      
   Plus, I've said why I obfuscate the headers a thousand times.   
      
   It's not my ISP nor my NNTP provider that I care most about   
   o Although, this does have that effect   
      
   It's the real world that I care about:   
   o Some nntp servers don't even obfuscate the IP (e.g., netfront)   
   o Some never change their obfuscation algorithm (e.g., aioe)   
   o Some change the obfuscation only monthly (e.g., mixmin)   
   o Some never change the per-user obfuscation (e.g., eternal sept)   
   etc.   
      
   > For this particular usage of usenet for these groups we are   
   > participating right now, I don't see that to be necessary at all.   
      
   Hi Mike,   
      
   That's like saying you don't see any reason for freedom.   
   Or like saying you can't imagine why countries have borders.   
   Or like saying you can't see any reason for automotive door locks.   
   etc.   
      
   You can _say_ all that - but you're saying something meaningless.   
   o Worse, your claim reeks of utter and complete ignorance. :)   
      
   Perhaps the best way to respond to your comment is to reflect   
   on how Snowden responded to people like you about privacy:   
   o In one quote, Snowden just destroyed the biggest myth about privacy   
        
      
   > if you are involved in some clandestine activity on usenet which could   
   > get you into trouble with some entity then that is another matter.   
      
   Hi Mike,   
      
   I can see around corners, where I completely comprehend   
   your veiled accusation, which is made out of your total ignorance.   
      
   I wish you wouldn't speak out of utter ignorance like that.   
   o Lots of people are just as ignorant as you appear to be.   
      
   The only response i will prove is this EXACT QUOTE from the above.   
      
      "At one point, Snowden brought up a common defense from people   
       who come down on the side of the government:   
       "I don't care if they violate my privacy; I've got nothing to hide."   
      
       He then proceeded to obliterate that argument.   
      
      "Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because   
       you have    nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't   
        care about free speech because you have nothing to say,"   
       he said.   
      
        In other words, the right to privacy, just like the right to   
        free speech, is fundamental for all Americans.   
      
       Snowden added that people who use the "I have nothing to hide"   
       line don't understand the basic foundation of human rights.   
        "Nobody needs to justify why they 'need' a right," he said.   
        "The burden of justification falls on the one seeking to infringe   
       upon the right."   
      
   Mike Easter,   
      
   Rest assured, while I'm only of average intelligence (if that),   
   I completly comprehended your veiled accusation.   
      
   Hence, the burden of proof is on you, Mike, to support your accusation,   
   with facts, as any adults should - and not on me to defend against your   
   accusation which I know to be made out of complete & total ignorance.   
      
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