XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.freeware, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   XPost: comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: arlen@arlen.com   
      
   On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 01:34:52 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:   
      
   > It doesn't matter whether they change their encryption or not.  The   
   > schema they use is satisfactory to them and to their users.   
      
   Mike,   
   Stop making veiled arguments that nobody has a right to privacy.   
   o Just stop it.   
      
   It makes you sound ignorant to claim nobody has a right to privacy.   
      
   > The fact that you think something else is not important to them.  Or me.   
      
   Mike,   
   1. I posted a purposefully helpful quickie on getting up to speed on VPN.   
   2. You launced into your classic ignorant keyword troll based on "VPN".   
      
   This isn't my first rodeo with you, Mike.   
   o Every single time the word "VPN" is mentioned, you launch the same spiel.   
      
   You're like a cat pouncing on a laser beam.   
   o All you see is that the laser beam is MOVING!!!!!!!   
      
   Then you POUNCE on it!   
   o You do this EVERY time the word "VPN" is mentioned in ANY thread, Mike.   
      
   It doesn't matter WHAT the question is about VPN, MIke.   
   o Like the cat and the laser beam, you POUNCE on it with the same response.   
      
   I could have asked how to "spell" VPN, for Christs' sake Mike.   
   o And you'd _still_ pounce on it with the same innate response as always   
      
   CITE:    
   Titled: The difference between innate and acquired characteristics   
      
   All your responses to the keyword "VPN" are _always_ the same Mike.   
   o And they're wrong.   
      
   I don't have to prove my right to privacy, Mike.   
   o The burden is on you to prove I have absolutely no right to privacy, Mike.   
      
   > If you 'fear' for some reason or other that 'someone' or some thing will   
   > discover your connecting IP from an nntp message you post, then you   
   > should do whatever you must, such as VPN to mitigate that fear.   
      
   I don't have to prove my right to privacy, Mike.   
   o The burden is on you to prove I have absolutely no right to privacy, Mike.   
      
   Remember, YOU are the troll here, Mike - not me.   
   o I simply posted a purposefully helpful way for beginners   
      
   > I'm saying that MOST conversations like this one in this group do not   
   > need to have the connecting or provider IP hidden from the nntp admin,   
   > who can certainly decrypt the NPH or examine his logs.   
      
   I don't have to prove my right to privacy, Mike.   
   o The burden is on you to prove I have absolutely no right to privacy, Mike.   
      
   > If I were doing something in which I might have an adversary, such as   
   > downloading copyrighted material, I would not want my adversary to be   
   > able to discover my connecting IP very easily, so I would have to do   
   > something about that such as VPN and/or Tor.   
      
   I don't have to prove my right to privacy, Mike.   
   o The burden is on you to prove I have absolutely no right to privacy, Mike.   
      
   > However, if I am dl/ing such as open source linux .iso/s, then it   
   > doesn't matter to me if the torrent pool members have access to my   
   > connecting IP.   
      
   I don't have to prove my right to privacy, Mike.   
   o The burden is on you to prove I have absolutely no right to privacy, Mike.   
      
   > Maybe if you are rude or offensive to those on usenet with whom you have   
   > conversations you might acquire more adversaries than someone who isn't.   
      
   Mike,   
      
   Stop it with your completely baseless ignorant claims, Mike.   
   o Just stop.   
      
   LOOK at my responses to you, Mike.   
   o LOOK!   
      
   When you response helpfully, I respond very very very politely.   
      
   When you respond with complete and total ignorant bullshit,   
   o I tell you it's complete and total ignorant bullshit   
      
   When you make veiled ignorant threats...   
   o I tell you that I don't appreciate your ignorant veiled threats   
      
   When you make utterly baseless ignorant claims about proxies   
   o I ask you to NAME JUST ONE   
      
   The fact that you can't name just one is not an ad hominem attack.   
   o It's a fact.   
      
   The fact is that you responded as you ALWAYS respond to the VPN keyword.   
   THe fact is you're a keyword troll, Mike, at least for the keyword VPN.   
   The fact is your advice is to use a proxy, Mike, instead of a "glorified   
   proxy".   
      
   If your claim has _any_ merit, Mike, you'd _find_ a proxy.   
   o And yet ... you can't.   
      
   All I'm pointing out is the FACTs Mike.   
   o Your claims are all complete and total ignorant bullshit, Mike.   
      
   You can't back up a _single_ one of your claims, Mike.   
   o And I backed up every one of mine, Mike.   
      
   What you don't like is that you made ignorant statements   
   o That I proved were ignorant.   
      
   Thats! What you don't like, Mike.   
      
   I'm a man of action Mike.   
   o Give me a free proxy to use with the free Usenet servers, Mike.   
      
   I'll THANK you and I'll USE that proxy.   
      
   But don't tell me to use a proxy that simply does not appear to exist.   
   o That! Mike.   
      
   That! Would be you spewing complete & total ignorant bullshit.   
      
   HINT: I am completely against ignorant & total bullshit.   
   DOUBLEHINT: I'm all for a free proxy that works with Usenet!   
      
   To that end, interested users may visit_this_ thread:   
   o What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?   
      
      
   Is there a free proxy that works with free Usenet servers, or not?   
   o If yes, I'll test it out and report back to increase our tribal knowledge.   
   o IF no, then the advice to use a free proxy is complete ignorant bullshit.   
      
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