XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system   
   From: arlen_h0ldr@arlinghlder.edu   
      
   On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 02:06:25 -0400, JF Mezei wrote:   
      
   > There is a good reason to upgrade on day 0:   
   >   
   > If things really don't work, you can stil download the 12.4 IPSW and   
   > install from DFU mode and restore everything from backup.   
   >   
   > If you wait longer, then Apple stops signing IOS 12.4 and you are stuck   
   > with whatecer show stopper problem on IOS 13.   
   >   
   > That matters when you have "non standard" computers which are expected   
   > to interface with your iPhone (older version of OS/applications or non Mac).   
      
   Hi JF Mezei,   
      
   Since you're not an apologist, an entirely different conversation can   
   ensue, where my adult argument is DIFFERENT than your adult argument.   
      
   Your adult argument is perfectly valid, where you bring up a good point,   
   which is that, if you update, and if you don't like iOS 13.0, you can back   
   out of the mess at your convenience.   
      
   The adult point I bring up is more global, which is that _every_ iOS   
   release (for the past few years) has been proven to be so full of holes   
   that you can drive a bus through them (Google proved that iOS is   
   essentially untested, but the facts had long ago proved it to anyone   
   intelligent enough (and adult enough) to comprehend those facts).   
      
   My point isn't about any one iOS release; my point is an adult observation   
   regarding systemic problems with _all_ iOS releases of the past few years.   
   o Apple clearly doesn't test iOS sufficiently.   
      
   Why?   
   o I don't know why.   
      
   I suspect the answer is pretty simple though:   
   o It's easier to advertise privacy & security than to actually deliver it.   
      
   Also, Apple KNOWS the customer wants frequency of release   
   o Apparently frequency of release makes Apple customers _feel_ safe.   
      
   In addition, sadly, Apple customers, don't seem to comprehend facts   
   o I can easily prove this simply by asking people why they own iPhones   
      
   The answers I get are as hilariously dead wrong as the answers I get   
   whenever I ask a stranger at the gas pump why they use the Premium   
   gasoline.   
      
   The one thing that factors always into any iPhone discussion   
   o Is that Apple Marketing is fantastically brilliant.   
      
   They know that releasing iOS on a rigid & frequent schedule   
   o Is far more important to their customers - than iOS quality is.   
      
   In summary, JF Mezei, your adult argument is perfectly valid, where I'm   
   making a different (i.e., higher level) argument that Apple doesn't test   
   _any_ iOS release sufficiently - hence - to install iOS blindly - is a   
   fools' errand in terms of blindly accepting huge security holes in every   
   release.   
      
   Notice that I don't disagree with your argument because my argument is   
   DIFFERENT than your argument - where only a fool could possibly disagree   
   that iOS isn't sufficiently tested (since clear proof is rampant).   
      
   --   
   HINT: I sprinkle the word adult on purpose because all the arguments of the   
   apologists are that of a child, while your adult argument was apropos.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)