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   Snit to Snit   
   Re: Apple lied. Again. Yet another Apple   
   14 Feb 20 15:25:29   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.apps   
   XPost: uk.telecom.mobile   
   From: usenet@gallopinginsanity.com   
      
   Snit  wrote:   
   > Arlen Holder  wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:00:50 GMT, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> A lot of your rant is IMO malicious interpretation.   
   >>   
   >> Facts are the weakness of all you apologists (proven below with facts).   
   >>   
   >> I _love_ facts so if you can provide facts backing up your claims, that   
   >> would be the adult thing to do, and which would be very much appreciated.   
   >>   
   >> You'll note that adults provide cites and in those cites are facts.   
   >>   
   >> You've shown facts are your weakness, as they are for all apologists.   
   >> o You gravitate to MARKETING messages because you don't comprehend facts.   
   >>   
   >> Proof below.   
   >>   
   >>> Show me that they   
   >>> were throttliing CPUs on iPhones with perfectly healthy batteries - I   
   >>> doubt you can.   
   >>   
   >> Please do not fabricate a strawman just so that you can shoot it down.   
   >> o If you can't address facts, then simply do not post imagined objections.   
   >>   
   >> I don't think ANYONE said Apple was throttling brand new phones whose   
   >> batteries were working fine (certainly not me).   
   >>   
   >> Remember, I'm the guy who first broke this news to this newsgroup (on   
   >> 12/20/2017); they _found_ the throttling because benchmarks plummeted the   
   >> instant people installed the iOS release that implemented the _secret_   
   >> throttling.   
   >> o Report says Apple 'Powerd' code secretly slows your iOS device down to   
   >> trick you into buying a new device   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> Not only did benchmarks plummet drastically, but that CPU drop was   
   >> permanent (i.e., batteries never get better).   
   >>   
   >> Not only was that benchmark plummet permanent, but when people did put new   
   >> batteries in, the benchmarks _doubled_ instantly.   
   >>   
   >>> (Nobody supports old hardware forever; they manage 4-5   
   >>> years usually, which is tolerable.   
   >>   
   >> Again, please do not fabricate a strawman just so you can shoot it down.   
   >>   
   >> These iPhones were secretly throttled after about a year.   
   >>   
   >> If the only way you can deal with facts is to fabricate imaginary windmills   
   >> for you to then swing at, then all you're really doing is telling us you   
   >> have no adult response to the facts (which means you agree with them).   
   >>   
   >>> But that doesn't make special   
   >>> handling of older hardware a conspiracy to get rid of it.)   
   >>   
   >> Apple was convicted of the crime of intentionally shortening the life of   
   >> the affected iPhones.   
   >>   
   >> Apple likely has some of the best lawyers on the planet, and _they_ had to   
   >> write up the public note which is on Apple's web page today saying they   
   >> admit to committing the crime.   
   >>   
   >> For you to call a crime "special handling" is, indeed, paradoxical.   
   >> o Apple committed the crime of deceptive commercial practice   
   >>    
   >>   
   >>> Given a   
   >>> choice between full speed and greater risk of crashing that might   
   >>> exist with a worn battery, I think not crashing is a better choice.   
   >>   
   >> This statement shows that you're just fine with the choice of:   
   >> a. Unacceptable performance, or,   
   >> b. Unacceptable stability.   
   >> (You MUST pick one!)   
   >>   
   >> And remember, it was _secret_, so your only choice was:   
   >> a. Unacceptable performance, or,   
   >> B. Buy a new phone.   
   >> (Even the Apple Genius bar was telling customers to do this.)   
   >>   
   >> We already proved no other smartphone OEM does what Apple does!   
   >> o Does any Android phone manufacturer pull the hostile battery & display   
   >> lockout stunts that Apple secretly added to the iPhones recently?   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> HINT: It's not the batteries; it's clearly crappy overall power design.   
   >>   
   >>> All that throwing a hissy got was disclosure and a switch so you can   
   >>> choose yourself - the latter always good, but hardly obligatory, IMO.   
   >>   
   >> You actually think it's good that your only iPhone choices are now:   
   >> a. Unacceptable performance, or   
   >> b. Unacceptable stability, or,   
   >> c. Unacceptable repeated expensive battery replacements.   
   >> (You MUST choose one, and repeatedly, for the life of the iPhone!)   
   >>   
   >>> Everyone (Apple, Google, Amazon) with voice activated AIs listens some   
   >>> to improve both speech-to-text and understanding of questions.   
   >>   
   >> This is a classic response of blaming everyone but Apple for Apple flaws.   
   >>   
   >> Even Apple does it!   
   >> o Apple constantly & consistently blames everyone else but Apple for   
   >> Apple bugs & Apple design flaws!   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> It's always you apologists who blame everyone for Apple's flaws.   
   >>   
   >> What you apologists forget is that old adage of having your cake and eating   
   >> it also.   
   >>   
   >> The _adult_ response should be, IMHO, along the lines of Apple shouldn't   
   >> throw stones at Google when Apple's privacy is as bad, or worse.   
   >>   
   >> You apologists _never_ seem to own the adult comprehensive skills that can   
   >> comprehend that Apple is the one advertising privacy.   
   >>   
   >> And, you apologists never seem to comprehend that Apple is the one   
   >> violating your privacy (and their own privacy policies).   
   >>   
   >> Don't blame Apple's actions on Google or Amazon please.   
   >> o Children don't take responsibility for their actions.   
   >>   
   >> Apple is responsible for violating your privacy, and for violating their   
   >> own policies on privacy.   
   >>   
   >> Deal with that fact like an adult instead of playing the classic apologist   
   >> child-like game of blaming everyone else but Apple for Apple's flaws.   
   >> o Why do both Apple & the apologists habitually blame everyone but Apple   
   >> for Apple's poor design choices?   
   >>    
   >>   
   >>> If you are crazy about privacy, you have to live in an off-grid shack   
   >>> like the Unabomber did; otherwise, be careful but don't expect wonders   
   >>> from anyone.   
   >>   
   >> This is the first sensible statement showing that you are capable of adult   
   >> cognitive skills.   
   >>   
   >> There is no privacy on any consumer phone, where privacy is a long chaing   
   >> of links, and Apple only touts the very few very strong ones.   
   >> o What is the factual truth about PRIVACY differences or similarities   
   >> between the Android & iOS mobile phone ecosystems?   
   >>    
   >>   
   >>> Apple will CYA and sometimes release on marketing   
   >>> schedule rather than on ready like anyone else; but the basic premise   
   >>> remains: your data is not what they sell (unlike Google) nor used for   
   >>> marketing what they do sell both directly and for 3rd parties (unlike   
   >>> Amazon).   
   >>   
      
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