XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.freeware   
   From: arlenholder@newmachine.com   
      
   On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 13:35:53 +1000, Gary R. Schmidt wrote:   
      
   > Ah, I didn't mean that 'you' qua 'you' would have to write the   
   > application, but that a secure application would have to be written.   
      
   Hi Gary,   
      
   I appreciate that you clarified, as Usenet is inherently an easily confused   
   media, as we converse, days apart, and only via the textual medium.   
      
   Unfortunately, I suspect, something like 99.9% of all contacts on people's   
   Android phones, are _already_ uploaded to the Internet, whether they know   
   that or not.   
      
   Even _my_ contacts, years ago at least, were uploaded to Google servers!   
   o But this was before I realized what Google was doing with that sqlite db!   
      
   All I'm trying to do is what I've always strived to do, which is:   
   a. Provide a general purpose (usually free) solution that anyone can use   
   b. Which gives them two things that I feel everyone on Android deserves   
      (1) Functionality (e.g., contact lookup & caller ID)   
      (2) With privacy (i.e., contact information should never be on the net!)   
      
   I'm close with a solution...   
   o Oh so close... as I've solved the contacts, dialer, and SMS app issues.   
      
   Privacy-based tools that do _not_ use the default contacts sqlite db:   
   o Dialer === SimpleMobileTools Dialer (a dialer is actually optional today)   
   o Contacts === SimpleMobileTools Contacts (this is still essential today)   
   o SMS === PulseSMS (this can be tricked into displaying the caller ID)   
      
   Each of those works just fine with an empty default contacts sqlite db.   
   o *The only thing left is caller ID* (with an empty contacts sqlite db)*   
      
   I need to test caller ID apps, but I've been working other issues, e.g.,   
   o Microsoft installer error: 1326 Failed to install update.   
      
      
   Since I'm a good Usenet citizen (e.g., I search first, I ask, I test, and I   
   report back), I won't have any useful information for you until I test out   
   the caller-id apps to see if _they_ will solve the caller ID problem that   
   remains when you wipe out the default contacts sqlite database for privacy.   
      
   > Possibly one or more already exists, if I wanted secure[1]   
   > communications I would be looking for such a replacement application, as   
   >   I said, it cannot be bolted-on to the existing one.   
      
   I agree, there are multiple possible solutions to the problem set of the   
   default contacts sqlite database being uploaded to the net without your   
   permission.   
      
   What are those possible solutions?   
   o I don't know them all, but these are two that I will strive to find!   
   1. Find only apps that use their own private personal contacts database!   
   2. Figure out how to stop Google uploading the default contacts sqlite db.   
   --   
   It's a worthwhile endeavor to maintain functionality & privacy together.   
      
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