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   Arlen Holder to All   
   Re: Why is it _only_ that iOS lacks priv   
   03 Jul 20 15:00:54   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: arlenholder@newmachine.com   
      
   > *Why is it _only_ that iOS lacks privacy of eliminating the Advertiser ID?*   
      
   UPDATE:   
      
   o *Apple iOS14 tailored ad permission popup reputedly not employing European   
   permission standards*   
      
      
   Reproduced below for completeness...   
      
   Dateline today   
   (All verbatim given apologists love to play silly semantic games.)   
      
     "In iOS 14, if an app wants to show tailored ads, it must display a popup   
      asking permission from the user."   
      
     "the complaint stems from Apple not adopting a permission standard   
      required by law in Europe. This means that apps with European users   
      will need to seek the same permission twice, once with a GDPR-compliant   
      request, and again with Apple's request."   
      
      *It is not required until an app seeks access to a numeric identifier*   
      *that can be used for tracking*   
      
   o *Apple & ad industry clash over iOS 14 popup seeking permission for tracking*   
      
      
     "Advertisers like to measure the effectiveness of their ads... a cookie   
      is dropped on the user's device when they see an ad, and the website   
      where the purchase is made can check for the presence of that cookie.   
      
      Conversely, if you visit a website about (eg) drones, the site can drop   
      a cookie, and ad networks like those run by Google and Facebook can   
      check for that cookie and then serve you ads for drones."   
      
      "the complaint stems from Apple not adopting a permission standard   
       required by law in Europe. This means that apps with European users   
       will need to seek the same permission twice"   
      
      "Apple rejects the criticism because it already offers a tool to help   
       advertisers measure effectiveness."   
      
   See also:   
   o *Google-backed groups criticize Apple's new warnings on user tracking*   
      
      
     "Sixteen marketing associations, some of which are backed by Facebook Inc   
     and Alphabet Inc's Google, faulted Apple for not adhering to an   
     ad-industry system for seeking user consent under European privacy rules.   
     Apps will now need to ask for permission twice"   
      
     "Apple said the new feature was aimed at giving users greater   
      transparency over how their information is being used. In training   
      sessions at a developer conference last week, Apple showed that   
      developers can present any number of additional screens beforehand to   
      explain why permission is needed before triggering its pop-up."   
      
     "The pop-up says an app would like permission to track you across apps   
      and websites owned by other companies and gives the app developer   
      several lines below the main text to explain why the permission is   
      sought.   
      
      *It is not required until an app seeks access to a numeric identifier*   
      *that can be used for tracking*, and apps only need to secure permission   
      once."   
      
   --   
   On Android, there is no requirement for this Advertiser ID privacy hole!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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