XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: 12345@12345.com   
      
   Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   > 123456789 wrote:   
      
   >> I picked up a smartphone on my local Target department store   
   >> discount rack awhile back for $15 US. I use it when puttering   
   >> around the house as an Android iPod. It also streams radio stations   
   >> from around the world. Works great without either a data plan OR a   
   >> phone plan...   
      
   > a smartphone without a dataplan is useless.   
      
   The smartphone mentioned above is quite USEFUL to me. At $15 it was   
   quite a bit cheaper than I originally paid for my old iPod and I use it   
   for pretty much the same thing.   
      
   > I can not check the map while I'm on the street; I can not get a   
   > message (here we don't use SMS, we use Whatsapp). I can not do many   
   > things that I do normally till I arrive home to my wifi. These days,   
   >  to get the menu listing of a restaurant, I have to make a photo of   
   > its QR code at the door and look it up online, as it is not printed   
   > in a board.   
      
   Course not. Neither can I. I have another considerably more expensive   
   smartphone for my regular smartphone business. That doesn't mean my   
   el-cheapo around-the-house smartphone isn't USEFUL. It's about the third   
   the size and fits in my shirt pocket nicely. Very USEFUL. And BTW did I   
   mention that it's USEFUL?   
      
   > So of course I need a data plan to use a smartphone as intended, as   
   > designed. It is a gadget invented to be used on the move with   
   > Internet access.   
      
   Of course you do. As always YMMV.   
      
   > That you can live without it? Sure.   
      
   I think you are actually arguing with Arlen here. He's the one the one   
   that wants a sans-data plan phone. I simply pointed out that a disemboweled   
   smartphone can actually be quite USEFUL... ;)   
      
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