XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nospam@nospam.invalid   
      
   In article <9ZrWG.249186$eN2.196786@fx47.iad>, JF Mezei   
    wrote:   
      
   >   
   > > that's good, because they don't anymore, nor can they.   
   >   
   > Did it stop on the day the merger was signed? If not, when?   
      
   when lte came along, long ago.   
      
   > > for lte, they *can't* roam on each other's networks since the lte bands   
   > > are different.   
   >   
   > Differeent bands make no difference to roaming. I can go roam in   
   > Australia or Europe that use different bands than in Canada.   
      
   different bands absolutely *do* make a difference.   
      
   if the phone lacks the necessary bands for a particular carrier, it   
   *can't* connect at all, roaming or native.   
      
   > This was an issue in early phones that supported only 1 band, then   
   > supported 2 or 3, then 4. But they have now supported a whole bunch of   
   > bands for a long time.   
      
   recent iphones have lte bands for all four carriers, but that was not   
   always the case.   
      
   android phones vary quite a bit in what bands they support. in general,   
   the higher tier phones support more bands than the cheapos.   
      
   put simply, no roaming.   
      
   > If Sprint has some "odd" spectrum for which there is no handset support   
   > on LTE or 5G, it may not deploy it until/unless it gains support from   
   > everyone.   
      
   nonsense.   
      
   > It learned its lesson having to put 3G on 1700 which nobody   
   > else in USA had.   
      
   that was t-mobile 3g aws and completely irrelevant to lte, cdma or   
   anything being discussed.   
      
   > Considering T-Mobile won't shutdown CDMA till early next year at   
   > learliest, I suspect the current arrangement continues till then.   
      
   cdma is no longer used except by old cdma-only phones (mostly flip   
   phones), which are rare.   
      
   > The   
   > faster T-Mo converts Sprint customers to GSM-only, the less CDMA it   
   > needs to buy from Verizon.   
      
   nope. everything is lte now, which t-mobile and sprint fully support   
   and have for years, although different bands.   
      
   > But once T-Nio is a single network with LTE for both voice and data, it   
   > can shop around for which of AT&T or Verizon it gets its LTE from. I   
   > beleive it has FCC mandate to get some from AT&T, but what if Verizon   
   > offers better price?   
      
   nonsense. nobody needs to shop around for lte. why do you make up such   
   shit??   
      
   > This is where monopolistic behaviour comes in. Verizon may prefer to   
   > lose the roaming revenue so it can market its better coverage nobody   
   > else has.   
      
   there is no roaming revenue.   
      
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