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   Message 20,194 of 20,339   
   Robin Goodfellow to Ant   
   Re: Maps to Compare AT&T, T-Mobile, US C   
   06 Oct 21 08:21:11   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net   
      
   Ant  asked   
   >> Admittedly the signal suffers inside my own house since it???s brick but   
   when   
   >> I had Verizon several years ago it was the same story. I had to buy a mini   
   >> cell tower to receive phone calls. When I switched to T-Mobile they gave me   
   >> one for free but I stopped using it since WiFi calling is enabled.   
   >   
   > Which mini cell tower did you get for Verizon Wireless? For me, even   
   > outside get "No Service" in my iPhone 12 mini. :(   
      
   Hi Ant,   
   If you get a repeater from Verizon, you need "some" signal to amplify; but   
   if you get a cell tower, the tower connects to your router so you should   
   never get "no service" when you're inside your own home no matter how large   
   your home happens to be.   
      
   To Ant and badgolferman, neither of whom are apologists, given we can get to   
   the level of a normal conversation with nuance of detail, IMHO, also you   
   should never have to _pay_ for those cell towers for inside your own home.   
      
   My point of view to the carriers is...   
   1. You pay for service in your home   
   2. You should _get_ that service in your home   
   3. It's not your fault if their tower is miles away from your home   
   4. And they _know_ that   
   5. So it's up to _them_ to make your signal fantastic in your home   
      
   Normally, you can "improve" the signal in your own home 3 ways   
   a. Wi-Fi calling (this is de rigueur as I don't know of any downsides)   
   b. Cellular towers (these connect to your router and are the most common)   
   c. Cellular amplifiers (these have two units - a receiver & a repeater)   
      
   You know I speak facts when I tell you I have all three in my home (which is   
   small for the neighborhood where many homes are over 10,000 square feet).   
      
   If you have a large home you need more cellular towers inside the house.   
   But even a small home may need at least one cell tower inside the home.   
      
   Just as I have a lot of experience setting up WISP to obtain our Wi-Fi from   
   miles away due to the peculiar geography of living in mountains far away   
   from civilization, I've often helped neighbors on all three carriers (AT&T,   
   T-Mobile, & Verizon) with that five-point argument above, where they   
   _always_ give them to you for free if you are persistent with them.   
      
   It's getting harder to get them for free though...   
      
   For example, I told neighbors they could get them for free and one neighbor   
   asked me to help her so we called T-Mobile together from her phone for her   
   rather large house (hers is about 12,000 sq feet with a lot of chimneys).   
      
   T-Mobile told me during that joint call they no longer give out the cellular   
   repeaters but now they only give people the mini cellular towers (which   
   connect to the router).   
      
   I'm sure it's hard for you to believe I'm persistent (LOL), but T-Mobile   
   told her she couldn't have the cell tower for free, and I got on the phone   
   asking to speak to a supervisor - in the end - after speaking to the   
   supervisor - they agreed to give her the tower for a $25 deposit on her   
   credit card where she would get an instant $25 credit on her bill, which was   
   the best deal I could get for her.   
      
   Another neighbor, about 3 months or so ago, on Verizon, had to argue with   
   them not to charge shipping, but again, they did it for free. I haven't done   
   AT&T for a while but I suspect they're similar - you just have to be   
   persistent that it's their fault if you don't have perfect signal, not   
   yours.   
      
   As you know, on an iPhone it's not easy to tell whether you're using the   
   repeater or the cellular tower inside your home (or if you're using a   
   cellular tower outside your home), but on Android I can easily tell exactly   
   which tower is being used (as each has a unique ID), where most of the time   
   I'm using the femtocell (the phone will use the repeater when the Internet   
   is down and when I'm in the basement where the repeater unit is located).   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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