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   BeamMeUpScotty to David Hartung   
   Re: The impossiblility of replacing foss   
   06 May 22 11:18:53   
   
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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 5/6/22 6:58 AM, David Hartung wrote:   
   > On 5/5/22 12:59, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >> Just Wondering  wrote in news:hETcK.2083$lWNd.187@fx99.iad:   
   >>   
   >>> On 5/4/2022 10:19 AM, Scout wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:apudnatojZAbEe__nZ2dnUU7-fnNnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>> On 5/4/22 08:36, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>> chrisv  wrote in   
   >>>>>> news:vjk47h96l83krh4ri0sjdc0ad5nk2m2fjo@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Do you truly think that those   
   >>>>>>>>> living in apartments will be able to charge their vehicles at   
   >>>>>>>>> home?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yep.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Decades from now.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Charging outlets are popping up at   
   >>>>>>>> grocery stores, banks, and apartment   
   >>>>>>>> buildings.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Not nearly enough of them.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>        True, but that is changing.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "'Circling like sharks' at Whole Foods"   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/extraordinarily-frustrated-renters-no-place-   
   >>>>>>> 1001 39302.html   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>        More charge stations being built,   
   >>>>>> more gas stations closing. The trend   
   >>>>>> is clear...........   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "In addition to the federal push for EV   
   >>>>>> chargers – the Biden Infrastructure Law   
   >>>>>> targets 500,000 stations by 2030 – there   
   >>>>>> is also a push on the corporate side for   
   >>>>>> an increase in charging stations. So EV   
   >>>>>> charging ports will surpass the number of   
   >>>>>> gas stations, which has been steadily   
   >>>>>> declining for the last 20 years."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> https://electrek.co/2022/02/02/ev-charging-ports-will-soon-outnumber   
   >>>>>> -gas-   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> stations-in-the-us-yet-it-wont-be-enough/   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The number of gas stations may have declined, but that could be due   
   >>>>> to several things. It could be that cares today go further on a   
   >>>>> gallon of gasoline, or it could be that the number of pumps per   
   >>>>> station has grown over the years.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yep, I remember when the average station might have 4.. as in 4 cars   
   >>>> could get gas at a time.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Then they started putting in more pumps, and then converted to the   
   >>>> double sided pumps,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Now your average Sheetz can handle about 24-32 cars at a time.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Meanwhile I have a Sheetze near me, that has 28 pumps.. it counts as   
   >>>> 1 gas station. Meanwhile it has 4 chargers and counts as 1 charging   
   >>>> station.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The charging stations can handle about 4-6 cars  per hour. The fuel   
   >>>> pumps can handle at least 112 cars per hour.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Nope, given the longer time it takes to charge.. most station   
   >>>> locations wont even have enough space to handle the same volume of   
   >>>> traffic in EV.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Can you image what the stations are going to look like when a   
   >>>> hurricane is approaching... instead of cars wrapped around the block,   
   >>>> you're going to have cars wrapped around the city trying to top up   
   >>>> their charge.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Further unlike liquid fuels which you can store for emergencies for   
   >>>> when roads are closed, or power is out... you can't exactly store 5   
   >>>> gallons of electrons to charge your car. Which means you're pretty   
   >>>> much stuck there.   
   >>>   
   >>> Has anybody calculated how much larger the nation's electrical   
   >>> grid would have to be to power an all-electric vehicle fleet?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>      Every state promoting EV sales has   
   >> already done that, they would not be   
   >> pushing EV's if their local grid could   
   >> not handle it.   
   >   
   > Then you should have no problem finding and posting those figures.   
      
   And if true why is California and Texas and others having problems   
   keeping the lights on and why do they buy fossil produced energy from   
   other States?   Wouldn't their first priority to be self sufficient and   
   sustainably independent with enough WIND/SOLAR of their own energy to   
   also add with their own fossil and NUCLEAR to power the state for their   
   own residents who they are obligated to secure the blessing's of liberty   
   to meet the oath of their elected office?   And then if they have extra   
   WIND/SOLAR after they become 100% SOLAR WIND to sell that to their   
   neighboring States?   
      
   Which State has accomplished 100% WIND/SOLAR that is sustainable for   
   their own residents?   
      
   And if the answer is NONE then shouldn't the DEMOCRATS be admitting   
   their failed policies aren't getting what they say are the problems...   
   solved by their own standards.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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   Here are the six GOP senators who broke with a majority in their caucus   
   to confirm Mayorkas to head the DHS:   
      
   Sen. Shelley Capito, R-W.Va.   
      
   Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine   
      
   Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska   
      
   Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska   
      
   Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio   
      
   Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah   
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