XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans
XPost: alt.survival
From: Nic@none.net
On 5/6/22 6:25 PM, 25.BX945 wrote:
> On 5/6/22 8:54 AM, invalid wrote:
>> On 2022-05-06, 25.BX945 <25BZ495@nada.net> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/22 9:48 AM, Abort Retry Fail wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-05, Blue Lives Matter
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2022 22:52:56 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>> "25.BX945" <25BZ495@nada.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Sez ... MAGA is the most extreme political organization
>>>>>>> in American history.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm rather proud that gibberish Joe is afraid of me. I wear my maga
>>>>> hat proudly and carry a "big stick" (.40 caliber) to fend off hateful
>>>>> leftists.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And you don't think demanding the overthrow of the Constitution
>>>>>> is extreme.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be extreme, but thankfully, nobody is doing that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What would be too extreme? Electing a black as
>>>>>> president?
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't we already do that?
>>>>
>>>> It's classic Democrat fear mongering. And it's not going to work
>>>> because while the left may not
>>>> like or currently support Trump, they are feeling the Biden ,
>>>> Democrat's pain in their wallet and
>>>> are not happy.
>>>>
>>>> Joe has already tried to deflect by blaming Putin. Joe was laughed
>>>> at, even by the Democrats and
>>>> left media for that one.
>>>> Then there was the extreme, war mongering focus on Ukraine.
>>>> People are growing weary of that one as well, although sympathetic,
>>>> obviously.
>>>> So now it's a timed leak from SCOTUS for the hot topic of the
>>>> century, abortion.
>>>>
>>>> People aren't stupid.
>>>> They see right through this.
>>>>
>>>> The really big problem is if BLM and ANTIFA turn this into a racist
>>>> argument and you know they are
>>>> working towards that.
>>>> Should that happen, and should the authorities not shut it down
>>>> quickly we will have another
>>>> "Summer Of Love" on our hands.
>>>
>>>
>>> I will note that "people" seem to fall for the same
>>> tricks and bullshit generation after generation - going
>>> back at least as far as they discovered putting marks
>>> on clay tablets.
>>>
>>> So, people ARE at least a species of "stupid". There's
>>> a gap, a disconnect, in the collective memory, the
>>> collective Learning Experience. Pols have exploited that
>>> since forever.
>>>
>>> And the Woke/MSM are proving that this truth STILL prevails.
>>
>> I believe that to be true which is why the Democrats keep using the
>> same tactics over and over
>> again. It's because those tactics are successful and that is because
>> people are stupid.
>> They will support a party because of a single issue, like abortion,
>> while at the same time ignoring
>> the fact that the same party has been a disaster as a whole for the
>> country.
>> If the Republicans can't manage to sweep the November midterm
>> elections, I'm done with them.
>
> Wait to see what Dirty Tricks the lefties employ before
> you condemn the GOP (and there's really no other place
> to go anyway). Some of those tricks may be almost impossible
> do defend against. The only "fix" - the non-Woke have to
> have their own little arsenal of dirty tricks, ready to
> deploy. No, that's in no way ideal, but it's most often
> how realpolitik works.
>
> MAYBE one in ten people are "smart" in that they have good
> bullshit detectors, can see logical defects, have enough
> facts to spot lies and half-truths, look at political shit
> with a certain level of cynicism. But even 10% often isn't
> enough to get sensible people into office. Remember also
> that half of that ten percent is likely to be generally
> on "the other side". The two five percents largely cancel
> out each other.
>
> And "single issue" ... people DO have a few "single issues"
> they just REQUIRE. Even if a relatively "good" side misses
> or opposes their Big Issue they'll stay home or even vote
> for the other side. It's NOT a way to a better country, that's
> for sure, but people aren't very logical, rarely bother to
> add-up the overall score between parties. It's just How We
> Are as a species - and, as I said, it seems to have ALWAYS
> been that way (well, the last 12,000 years at least).
>
> I often encourage the rightists to just IGNORE the abortion
> issue. There IS NO answer to it - neither science or "religions"
> or math will prove one or another answer is correct. It's one
> of those human things, an issue WE invented. Nature has no
> opinion and ethics/philosophy can give you any sure-nuf Truth
> you're shopping for. IMHO, best to just quietly defer to the
> "free country" principle here legally and pursue other means
> to convince people of your POV. Yet, despite the Big Picture,
> rather a lot WILL NOT vote for a party that isn't X or Y on
> that issue alone. It's mostly emotional but sometimes you can
> see the seeds of reasoning that will lead to OTHER bad laws
> being created.
>
Have you considered that the observer and time-space have a bond that
has yet to be explained. For a starter- figure out to how to have
accurate elections, for if the vote is the way to that bottom line, than
count me in.
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