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|    BeamMeUpScotty to John Dillinger    |
|    Re: In abortion fight, conservatives pus    |
|    07 May 22 10:25:17    |
      [continued from previous message]              > Rape "emotionally scars the individual," Schmidt conceded, "but if a       > baby is created, it is a human life."       >       > Democratic Rep. Tavia Galonski countered that pregnancy is often       > traumatic and dangerous on its own, adding: "To then force a survivor       > of rape to carry a pregnancy to term and go through childbirth is       > utterly vile and only adds to the trauma they have already suffered."       >       > In South Carolina, supporters of a 2021 abortion ban added exceptions       > for rape and incest because it was the only way to get the law passed.       > During debate, Republican Sen. Richard Cash argued against the       > exceptions.       >       > "Punish the rapist ... but it doesn't belong on the baby," he said.       >       > Democratic Sen. Mia McLeod responded that it was obvious Cash had       > never been raped.       >       > "Well, I have. You're looking at a sexual assault survivor," she said,       > adding that requiring rape victims to carry babies to term could lead       > them to desperate measures, including dangerous illegal abortions or       > suicide.       >       > "I'm just asking that the men in this body give the women and girls of       > this state" a choice, McLeod said.       >       > New Hampshire has banned abortion after 24 weeks of gestation except       > for when the woman's health is threatened, though the state will soon       > add an exception for fatal fetal anomalies. The Republican-led       > legislature has rejected attempts to add rape and incest exceptions.       >       > Republican Rep. Beth Folsom, who said in January that she is a rape       > survivor, argued the exceptions aren't necessary because rape victims       > carefully track their menstrual cycles and wouldn't wait 24 weeks to       > seek an abortion. An incest exception wasn't needed, she added,       > because "that aggressor is going to make sure that young girl or woman       > has an abortion before anyone finds out."       >       > Mallory Schwarz, executive director of Pro-Choice Missouri, expressed       > concern that provisions in laws like the one in Texas that allow       > abortions past six weeks in medical emergencies, will require doctors       > to wait until a patient appears to be dying to perform an abortion.       >       > "Any of those kind of pieces that are left up to interpretation are       > generally going to have a broad chilling effect on providers who don't       > want to jeopardize their career and livelihood and practice and       > ability to care for other patients," Schwarz said.       >       > Many bans outlaw abortion after six weeks, when vaginal ultrasounds       > can first detect electrical activity in embryonic cells that may later       > become the heart. Proponents call them "heartbeat laws," arguing that       > cardiac activity is a reliable indicator of life.       >       > In Idaho, Housley has repeatedly testified against the state's       > abortion bans in the Legislature, but said the lawmakers were       > uninterested in hearing about her experience.       >       > "My baby had a heartbeat, but that's not the only thing a baby needs,"       > said Housley. Anti-abortion politicians "are not at all interested in       > the reality of this issue. They've hijacked this discussion, and       > that's why we are where we are."       >       > ___       >       > Hanna reported from Topeka, Kansas. Associated Press writer Hannah       > Fingerhut and AP statehouse reporters from around the U.S.       > contributed.       >       Actually when abortion is not a federal power it falls to the states or       the people which is already what the Supreme Court has decided in their       old opinion making it legal... the problem then is that if the States       have the power to regulate abortion like they regulate murder... then       each state sets their own level of tolerance for it.              The only time that there's an issue of a total ban or total one size       fits all solution... is when we follow the Democrats lies and       undermining of the Constitution and Marxist tendencies. With the States       having the power it may be that there will be 50 different points at       which an abortion is legally acceptable, starting with when it endangers       the mother's life. As in the self defense laws of all 50 states from the       stand your ground law (used by George Zimmerman) which could apply in       Florida as a way to argue that a pregnancy is life threatening to the       mother. To Wisconsin where Rittenhouse was tried for trying to protect       his own life and was prosecuted without any concern for his exercising       his RIGHT to life, when the Wisconsin legal system accused Rittenhouse       of murder for shooting the person who was trying to kill him. Democrats       were angry that Rittenhouse was protecting his own life like a pregnant       woman wanting an abortion to protect her life.... And we all know it's       because Democrats wanted to attack gun owners and anyone who would try       to stop the Democrats burning and looting... but now that will be a       conundrum if abortion laws fall back to the States, because Wisconsin       will need to prosecute any woman claiming to have needed an abortion to       save their own life... you can't just protect yourself with lethal force       like using a gun or abortion in Wisconsin....              Oh what a tangled web they weave as the Democrats conspire to deceive...                     Women in Republican States (where laws are applied equally) could be       standing on better legal ground with precedence, to protect their health       than those in Democrat run States where the existing laws are NOT       applied equally and the precedence will will work against those women       who are in need of killing another human life while protecting their own       life.                     --       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       .       -That's Karma-              *IF YOU'RE READING THIS YOU ARE A SURVIVOR*       *The first rule of SURVIVAL CLUB* is we talk about it, we hate       censorship. Never trust what Democrats or Marxists tell you. Make them       prove it with actual verifiable facts and science. And if you didn't       find the duplicitous lies in what the Marxist-Democrats told you then       you didn't dig deep enough. The *Gruber* *Doctrine* is the       Marxist-Democrat plan that says it's "to the Democrats advantage to have       a lack of transparency and then lie about everything".       https://rumble.com/vkt8ld-call-it-the-stupidity-of-the-american-       oter-or-whatever.-how-libs-exploit-t.html              *The next rule of SURVIVAL CLUB* is       237 - When an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving auto crash       in a Sanctuary City, it's an Undocumented funeral caused by racist White       Americans, it's NOT criminal "manslaughter".              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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