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   Message 10,836 of 12,782   
   Nic to All   
   Re: Joe Says MAGA "Most Extreme Politica   
   07 May 22 17:30:43   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans   
   XPost: alt.survival   
   From: Nic@none.net   
      
   On 5/7/22 12:16 AM, 25.BX945 wrote:   
   > On 5/6/22 6:44 PM, Nic wrote:   
   >> On 5/6/22 6:25 PM, 25.BX945 wrote:   
   >>> On 5/6/22 8:54 AM, invalid wrote:   
   >>>> On 2022-05-06, 25.BX945 <25BZ495@nada.net> wrote:   
   >>>>> On 5/5/22 9:48 AM, Abort Retry Fail wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2022-05-05, Blue Lives Matter   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2022 22:52:56 -0700, Siri Cruise   
   >>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>> "25.BX945" <25BZ495@nada.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Joe Sez ... MAGA is the most extreme political organization   
   >>>>>>>>> in American history.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm rather proud that gibberish Joe is afraid of me. I wear my maga   
   >>>>>>> hat proudly and carry a "big stick" (.40 caliber) to fend off   
   >>>>>>> hateful   
   >>>>>>> leftists.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And you don't think demanding the overthrow of the Constitution   
   >>>>>>>> is extreme.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That would be extreme, but thankfully, nobody is doing that.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What would be too extreme? Electing a black as   
   >>>>>>>> president?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Didn't we already do that?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It's classic Democrat fear mongering. And it's not going to work   
   >>>>>> because while the left may not   
   >>>>>> like or currently support Trump, they are feeling the Biden ,   
   >>>>>> Democrat's pain in their wallet and   
   >>>>>> are not happy.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Joe has already tried to deflect by blaming Putin. Joe was   
   >>>>>> laughed at, even by the Democrats and   
   >>>>>> left media for that one.   
   >>>>>> Then there was the extreme, war mongering focus on Ukraine.   
   >>>>>> People are growing weary of that one as well, although   
   >>>>>> sympathetic, obviously.   
   >>>>>> So now it's a timed leak from SCOTUS for the hot topic of the   
   >>>>>> century, abortion.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> People aren't stupid.   
   >>>>>> They see right through this.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The really big problem is if BLM and ANTIFA turn this into a   
   >>>>>> racist argument and you know they are   
   >>>>>> working towards that.   
   >>>>>> Should that happen, and should the authorities not shut it down   
   >>>>>> quickly we will have another   
   >>>>>> "Summer Of Love" on our hands.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     I will note that "people" seem to fall for the same   
   >>>>>     tricks and bullshit generation after generation - going   
   >>>>>     back at least as far as they discovered putting marks   
   >>>>>     on clay tablets.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     So, people ARE at least a species of "stupid". There's   
   >>>>>     a gap, a disconnect, in the collective memory, the   
   >>>>>     collective Learning Experience. Pols have exploited that   
   >>>>>     since forever.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     And the Woke/MSM are proving that this truth STILL prevails.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I believe that to be true which is why the Democrats keep using the   
   >>>> same tactics over and over   
   >>>> again. It's because those tactics are successful and that is   
   >>>> because people are stupid.   
   >>>> They will support a party because of a single issue, like abortion,   
   >>>> while at the same time ignoring   
   >>>> the fact that the same party has been a disaster as a whole for the   
   >>>> country.   
   >>>> If the Republicans can't manage to sweep the November midterm   
   >>>> elections, I'm done with them.   
   >>>   
   >>>   Wait to see what Dirty Tricks the lefties employ before   
   >>>   you condemn the GOP (and there's really no other place   
   >>>   to go anyway). Some of those tricks may be almost impossible   
   >>>   do defend against. The only "fix" - the non-Woke have to   
   >>>   have their own little arsenal of dirty tricks, ready to   
   >>>   deploy. No, that's in no way ideal, but it's most often   
   >>>   how realpolitik works.   
   >>>   
   >>>   MAYBE one in ten people are "smart" in that they have good   
   >>>   bullshit detectors, can see logical defects, have enough   
   >>>   facts to spot lies and half-truths, look at political shit   
   >>>   with a certain level of cynicism. But even 10% often isn't   
   >>>   enough to get sensible people into office. Remember also   
   >>>   that half of that ten percent is likely to be generally   
   >>>   on "the other side". The two five percents largely cancel   
   >>>   out each other.   
   >>>   
   >>>   And "single issue" ... people DO have a few "single issues"   
   >>>   they just REQUIRE. Even if a relatively "good" side misses   
   >>>   or opposes their Big Issue they'll stay home or even vote   
   >>>   for the other side. It's NOT a way to a better country, that's   
   >>>   for sure, but people aren't very logical, rarely bother to   
   >>>   add-up the overall score between parties. It's just How We   
   >>>   Are as a species - and, as I said, it seems to have ALWAYS   
   >>>   been that way (well, the last 12,000 years at least).   
   >>>   
   >>>   I often encourage the rightists to just IGNORE the abortion   
   >>>   issue. There IS NO answer to it - neither science or "religions"   
   >>>   or math will prove one or another answer is correct. It's one   
   >>>   of those human things, an issue WE invented. Nature has no   
   >>>   opinion and ethics/philosophy can give you any sure-nuf Truth   
   >>>   you're shopping for. IMHO, best to just quietly defer to the   
   >>>   "free country" principle here legally and pursue other means   
   >>>   to convince people of your POV. Yet, despite the Big Picture,   
   >>>   rather a lot WILL NOT vote for a party that isn't X or Y on   
   >>>   that issue alone. It's mostly emotional but sometimes you can   
   >>>   see the seeds of reasoning that will lead to OTHER bad laws   
   >>>   being created.   
   >>>   
   >> Have you considered that the observer and time-space have a bond that   
   >> has yet to be explained. For a starter- figure out to how to have   
   >> accurate elections, for if the vote is the way to that bottom line,   
   >> than count me in.   
   >   
   >   Very quantum ... but I don't think it's that complex.   
   >   
   >   As for "accurate elections" ... in the real world I don't   
   >   think that's 100% possible. In THEORY, but not in PRACTICE.   
   >   Elections are MESSY. Jimmy Carter's friends refuse to look   
   >   into American elections alas ......   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   Are accurate elections even at 85% accurate enough?   
      
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