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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 5/9/22 11:01 PM, -hh wrote:   
   > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 5:18:10 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >> On 5/9/22 2:36 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >>> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 2:23:08 PM UTC-4, Siri Cruise wrote:   
   >>>> "Scout"  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> This can happen with any pregnancy. Even a pregnancy because of   
   >>>>>> rape. So in your superiority morality you have decided it's okay   
   >>>>>> to kill women for having been raped. Since Jesus never spoke   
   >>>>>> against abortion even though it was a known and allowed procedure   
   >>>>>> amongst jews, your superiority morality is contrary to christianity   
   >>>>>> and Jesus's lessons to judge not and love one and another.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yawn, and when you rent out your house there is a chance of an electrical   
   >>>>> fire even if the tenant abides by all the terms of the leash.. .but you   
   >>>>> can't evict your tenant just because you suddenly decide that there   
   might be   
   >>>>> an electrical fire.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yeah, you're shit at analogies. The doctor, paramedics, etc have   
   >>>> no warning there will be fatal hemorage at birth. If I'm worried   
   >>>> someone might start a fire in the basement, I don't have to rent   
   >>>> the basement. When I do it's my responsiblity to make sure the   
   >>>> wiring is up to code.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Shit happens.. that doesn't change how the rights of others should be   
   >>>>> treated until or unless that danger is actual.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The danger is actual for every single birth. In California a   
   >>>> woman gets to decide for herself how to deal with the danger.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> There's a lot of interesting "slippery slope" aspects to this topic.   
   >>> One that's likely to get the likes of the boys here riled up is that   
   >>> when carrying all pregnancies to term becomes mandated by the   
   >>> State, then so too the State has an inherent interest in making sure   
   >>> that said child is cared for instead of becoming a burden, which   
   >>> means that the father responsible must be determined through DNA   
   >>> testing...when then means mandatory DNA testing at the onset of   
   >>> puberty for all male residents of the State.   
   >>>   
   >>> Excessively invasive? Nope, not any more so than what females are   
   >>> being imposed with.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> -hh   
   >>>   
   >> Un-enumerated RIGHTS means the Government has no jurisdiction over   
   >> them. That's the point of enumerating things in the Constitution...   
   >> that's how powers are delegated to the United States(Federal) government.   
   >>   
   >> "Amendment X   
   >> The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution"   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> When NOT delegated to the United States the powers don't belong to the   
   >> FEDERAL JURISDICTION.   
   >   
   > So then what you’re saying is that the case here is the SCOTUS saying,   
   > “when we said that neither the Fed nor States had this power, but that it   
   > belonged to the people…we were wrong: it belongs to the States all   
   along.”?   
      
   Amendment X   
   The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,   
   *nor prohibited by it to the States* , are reserved to the States   
   respectively, or to the people.   
      
   It's NOT neglected, it is actually addressed. it's denied to the States   
   and the people, because calling it "abortion" doesn't change the fact   
   that it's still killing a human life... which violates the the RIGHTS to   
   life, liberty and property.   
      
   Amendment V   
   No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous   
   crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in   
   cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in   
   actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be   
   subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or   
   limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness   
   against himself, *nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property* ,   
   *without due process of law* ; nor shall private property be taken for   
   public use, without just compensation.   
      
   The RIGHT of the human life in the uterus takes precedence over the   
   imposition on the persons who created that life. Remember the adage,   
   with great power comes great responsibility. Killing a human life   
   without due process clearly violates the 5th Amendment's due process   
   clause that actually enumerated *NOR BE DEPRIVED OF (HUMAN) LIFE*   
   *WITHOUT* *DUE PROCESS* .   
      
   Which means that the people can't kill a human life without due process.   
   Which meant the question at hand was whether a human life inside a   
   uterus is a human life and or a person or does the 14th Amendment make   
   you a person at birth?   
      
   Amendment XIV   
   Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and   
   subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States   
   and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any   
   law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the   
   United States; *nor shall any State deprive any person of life* ,   
   liberty, or property, *without due process of law* ; nor deny to any   
   person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.   
      
   The 14th is same as the 5th amendment which is in the "Bill Of Rights".   
   *nor shall any State deprive any person of life* which denies the States   
   the delegated power to kill a human life *without due process* So the   
   States and the United States are required by the Constitution to follow   
   due process before they kill any human life. Because life starts at   
   conception with DNA and we become a person when we're created and   
   changed by our environment and human interaction, which starts   
   immediately at conception.  We know this because women who consume drugs   
   and alcohol and smoke are changing the human life inside their uterus   
   all making that human life unique by virtue of the DNA and the   
   environmental conditions and interaction with the mother and what she   
   does. Which means the human life in the uterus is a unique person from   
   conception. Which means it's protected as a human life and a person,   
   because a person born or naturalized in the united States becomes a   
   citizen at birth or when naturalized. Which means the the human life is   
   a person when born, otherwise the person would become a person and   
      
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)