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   From: Nic@none.net   
      
   On 5/31/22 7:26 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:   
   > On Tue, 31 May 2022 03:27:32 -0400, Mighty Wannabe wrote:   
   >   
   >> governor.swill@gmail.com wrote on 5/30/2022 11:34 PM:   
   >>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 10:48:00 -0400, Mighty Wannabe wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> governor.swill@gmail.com wrote on 5/30/2022 9:36 AM:   
   >>>>>>> Occupying an ungrateful population is nothing but   
   >>>>>>> trouble. The USSR learned that lesson well and in the early 1990s told   
   >>>>>>> all those ungrateful people in Eastern Europe to go fuck themselves.   
   >>>>> Apparently they didn't learn it all that well since Putin seems to be   
   >>>>> trying to reconstitute the USSR.  Osettia, Crimea and now Ukraine.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> The USSR is making good money selling oil, gas, wheat and fertilizer to   
   >>>> Europe and the world. Why would Putin want to "reconstitute the USSR"   
   >>>> and get those ungrateful idiots back?   
   >>> Question of the day, yeah, why is he doing this?  Ukraine was Russia's   
   >>> big grain producer.  Maybe that's why he wants it back.   
   >> You are living under a rock.   
   > And you should pay attention to what's written.  In the time of the   
   > USSR, Ukraine was the most profitable grain production region (not   
   > just wheat).  Before the war Ukraine produced more than a quarter of   
   > the world's sunflower oil leading Russia.  They also led Russia in   
   > soybean production.   
   >   
   >> Should get out more. Russia doesn't "want"   
   >> it back for grain. China is #1, India is #2, and Russia is #3. Although   
   >> Russia ranks #3 in wheat production, but Russia has a very small   
   >> population, so in effect Russia is the #1 exporter of wheat. Even   
   >> Pakistan produces more wheat than Ukraine does.   
   >>   
   >> Ukraine is situated at a very important geopolitical location and it is   
   >> now becoming a vassal of the imperialist US of A.   
   > You're Russian, I'm guessing.  The USA isn't imperialist (like the   
   > Russian Empire was) but it is hegemonous.  The best way to defend   
   > ourselves is to help stop war from happening at all and so far, it's   
   > working fairly well.   
   >   
   > Eighty years now since there was war between major world powers.   
   > Before WWII there was a barely a decade worth of peace.  The Japanese   
   > empire began growing in the twenties, the Spanish Civil War . . .   
   >   
   >  From 1900 to 1918 alone the British fought over 50 conflicts.  The   
   > Germans, Dutch, Italians, French, Spanish, Russians, Japanese and a   
   > host of others engaged in warfare CONSTANTLY until American Hegemony   
   > was established in the post war years.  During the 16th to 19th   
   > centuries there was war in Europe almost daily.  The thirty years war   
   > alone did more damage to Europe that WWII or WWI and by some counts   
   > perhaps as much as both combined.   
   >   
   > American hegemony and nuclear weapons have brought that tradition to   
   > an end.   
   >   
   > Who do I trust with global peace and security?  Russia or the United   
   > States?  Give you three guesses and the first two don't count.   
   >   
   >> That's is the real   
   >> reason Putin has to step in to intervene to prevent Russia from being   
   >> choked off at the Black Sea.   
   > If he wasn't being an ASSHOLE, nobody would be choking him anywhere.   
   > We call it putting the cart before the horse.  That is, he's being   
   > punished by the west for being an asshole, but he wants to believe he   
   > has to be an asshole because he's being punished by the west.  See the   
   > difference?   
   >   
   > By international treaty, Turkey is in charge of the approaches to the   
   > Black Sea.  Where does that moron get off blaming US?   
   >   
   > Under Yeltsin money poured in, trade opened up, western, northern,   
   > central and southern Europe started trading with him, the arms race   
   > with the US ended, the benefits to Russia of dumping communism and   
   > totalitarianism were incalculable.   
   >   
   > But Putin started swinging his balls around and look at the mess he's   
   > made!   
   >   
   >> You should look up "Ukraine" on Google Map   
   >> and you will understand how important it is for Putin to stop Ukraine   
   > >from becoming a vassal of the US.   
   >   
   > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!   
   >   
   > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!   
   >   
   > Which is also why it's essential to stop him.   
   >   
   > Look, we didn't fuck with the asshole in Ossettia.  We didn't fuck   
   > with him in Crimea.  But Ukraine is a bridge too far and Europe is NOT   
   > GOING TO LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IT.  Neither are we.   
   >   
   >   The last thing we need is Russian dominance of Europe.  Communism   
   > didn't work for them, totalitarianism doesn't work for them (and   
   > nobody in Europe is anxious to try those systems).  We're going to   
   > make sure conquest doesn't work for Russia either.   
   >   
   > But seriously "vassal of the United States"?  You must be posting from   
   > Vlad's bedroom.  Ukraine was edging towards EU membership.  They   
   > weren't looking to be annexed by the US.   
   >   
   > Russia had a chance to join the EU but Putin couldn't see that far   
   > ahead and he fucked it up.  He's set his country back at least a half   
   > century.   
   >   
   >> https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/wheat-prod   
   ction-by-country   
   >>   
   >> 1. China — 134,254,710   
   >> 2. India — 107,590,000   
   >> 3. Russia — 85,896,326   
   >> 4. United States — 49,690,680   
   > The US is tied with Canada for second in wheat exports according to   
   > the Food and Agriculture Organization Corporate Statistical Database.   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wheat_exports.   
   > Russia is first in exports but their production approaches *twice*   
   > ours.  That is, Russia is consuming a higher percentage of their   
   > domestic production than we are.  The US exports about 13% of its   
   > production.  Russia 9%.   
   >   
   > As an aside, Russians would have starved to death in the seventies but   
   > for discounted American wheat sales.  But with the fall of communism   
   > and totalitarianism, Russia is now a net food exporter.  How much   
   > longer will that last with Vladimir on his present course?   
   >   
   > Statistics depend on where you read.  Canada and the US are virtually   
   > tied for second in exports though you show Australia in third place   
   > and Canada down to fourth.   
   > (Food and Agriculture Organization Corporate Statistical Database.   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wheat_exports)   
   > But despite all these grain statistics, the question remains, why is   
   > Putin doing this?   
   >   
   > Does he really think he can militarily conquer Europe and reduce   
   > American influence?  That he can shoot the US and EU out of Ukraine?   
      
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