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   BeamMeUpScotty to David Hartung   
   Re: Kavanaugh reinforces Scalia: "[T]he    
   24 Jun 22 12:01:40   
   
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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 6/23/22 8:09 PM, David Hartung wrote:   
   > On 6/23/22 15:52, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >> "Properly interpreted, the Second Amendment allows a ‘variety’ of gun   
   >> regulations."   
   >>   
   >> Brett Kavanaugh in concurrence to today's New York gun law opinion   
   >   
   > Now you like Kavanaugh?   
   >   
   Kind of funny isn't it?   
      
   But the reality is that, what Kavanaugh said *if it reinforced Scalia*   
   means that you are NOT allowed unlimited "weapons" but the nomenclature   
   suggests that arms and weapons are NOT interchangeable.  SO it's word play.   
      
   *Arms are weapons... but NOT all weapons are arms*   
      
   The loop hole that Democrats think they see is NOT a loop hole at all.   
      
   It's their Layman's lack of understanding of war and self defense that's   
   showing....   
      
   The term "arms" is limiting which is what the Justices were clumsily   
   suggesting... Because arms are what a soldier or guard or hunter or man   
   protecting his home might carry into a limited battle or fight of a more   
   personal nature.  Which means a nuclear weapon is NOT arms but all the   
   "arms" are arms and they are what a person in the ranks would carry into   
   battle or would carry hunting or for self defense.   
      
   Which means that actual MACHINE GUNS and other hand held arms are all   
   legal.  And what isn't legal is to be determined by whether you carry it   
   into battle or to hunt or for self defense I would say they are weapons   
   that are carried to a fight that are defensive, those are arms.   
      
   The word arm While not exacting does point to the type of arms and they   
   are generally accepted as being the weapons that are carried by persons   
   preparing to defend themselves in, and survive after a conflict and for   
   self defense. Which means "pretty much" all kinds of firearms and hand   
   to hand weapons, I can't think of one that would be rejected as arms.   
      
   Which means things like bio-weapons and chemical weapons and Nuclear   
   weapons * which kill indiscriminately* are more strategic than tactical   
   and are NOT arms...  That's the fuzzy part but it's NOT unlimited it is   
   limited to arms.  Which means that to date, *anything short of* mass   
   offensive killing... is unlimited under the 2nd amendment.   
      
      
   arm verb   
   armed; arming; arms   
   Definition of arm (Entry 2 of 5)   
   transitive verb   
      
   1: to furnish or equip with weapons   
   2: *to furnish with something that strengthens or protects*   
   *arming citizens with the right to* vote   
   3: to equip or ready for action or operation   
   arm a bomb   
   intransitive verb   
      
   : to prepare oneself for struggle or resistance   
   arm for combat   
   arm noun (2), often attributive   
   Definition of arm (Entry 3 of 5)   
   1a: *a means (such as a weapon) of offense or defense*   
   *especially : FIREARM*   
   b: *a combat branch (as of an army)*   
   c: *an organized branch of national defense (such as the navy)*   
   2arms plural   
   a: the hereditary heraldic devices of a family   
   b: heraldic devices adopted by a government   
   3arms plural   
   a: *active hostilities : WARFARE*   
   a *call to arms*   
   b: *military service*   
   *up in arms*   
   : aroused and *ready to undertake a fight or conflict*   
      
   --   
   -That's karma-   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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