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   Attila to wHDvK.514398$wIO9.179106@fx12.iad   
   Re: An embryo is not a "baby" or a "chil   
   01 Jul 22 14:06:39   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   :closure of the ductus arteriosus and foramen ovale, but some   
   :minor adjustments continue for 1-2 months, until the adult   
   :phase begins.   
   :   
   :Fetal circulatory adaptions that disappear at birth....   
   :   
   :Umbilical vein...Carries oxygenated blood from placenta to   
   :fetus   
   :   
   :Ductus venosus...Conducts about half the blood from the   
   :umbilical vein directly to the inferior vena cava, thus   
   :bypassing the liver   
   :   
   :Foramen Ovale...Conveys large proportion of blood entering -   
   :the right atrium from the inferior vena cava, through the   
   :atrial septum and into the left atrium, thus bypassing the   
   :lungs   
   :   
   :Ductus Arteriosus...Conducts some blood from the pulmonary   
   :artery to the aorta, thus bypassing the lungs   
   :   
   :Umbilical arteries...Carry blood from the internal iliac   
   :arteries to the placenta for reoxygenation   
   :   
   :Immediately following birth, the umbilical vessels   
   :constrict. The arteries close first, and if the umbilical   
   :cord is not clamped or severed for a minute or so, blood   
   :continues to flow from the placenta to the newborn through   
   :the umbilical vein, adding to the newborn's blood volume.   
   :   
   :The proximal portions of the umbilical arteries persist in   
   :the adult as the superior vesical arteries that supply blood   
   :to the urinary bladder. The more distal portions become   
   :solid cords (lateral umbilical ligaments.) The umbilical   
   :vein becomes the cordlike ligamentum teres that extends from   
   :the umbilicus to the liver in an adult. Similarly, the   
   :ductus venosus constricts shortly after birth and is   
   :represented in the adult as a fibrous cord (ligamentum   
   :venosum), which is superficially embedded in the wall of the   
   :liver.   
   :   
   :So, to summarize, the hemodynamics of the immediate newborn   
   :and term fetus differ in these major ways, and many more   
   :minor ones...ALL abruptly changing at the moment of birth:   
   :(1) arterial and venous blood no longer mix in the atria;   
   :(2)the vena cava now carries only deoxygenated blood into   
   :the right atrium, where it goes into the right ventricle,   
   :and then is pumped to the pulmonary arteries, and finally to   
   :the pulmonary capillary bed , and ; (3) the aorta now   
   :carries only oxygenated blood from the left heart via the   
   :pulmonary veins for distribution to the rest of the body.   
   :The 'pipework' is still mostly there, but what enormous   
   :changes have taken place in a few short seconds!   
   :   
   :So, I'd appreciate if we didn't say that the immediate   
   :newborn and term fetus are almost identical, because they   
   :just aren't. The digestive changes alone would be ten times   
   :the length of this very basic circulatory primer, and the   
   :respiratory chemistry changes at the instant of birth could   
   :fill a book.   
   :   
   :cut here 8<================================================   
   :   
   :He listed as sources:   
   :   
   : _Gray's Anatomy_ 15th Edition; 1995   
   :   
   :_Human Anatomy and Physiology_, Second Edition, John W. Hole   
   :jr. 1988 Wm C. Brown Co.   
   :   
   :_Current Obstetric and Gynecologic Diagnosis and Treatment_   
   :8th Ed, DeCherney, Pernoll 1994   
   :   
   :   
   :Posted by Pat Winstanley    
      
   >Because as long as the DNA of that person is alive inside or outside the   
   >uterus and progressing through the human life cycle, the legal standing   
   >of the document is valid and waiting to be triggered by the qualifier be   
   >it birth(age ZERO) or be it the age of 18 years old.   
      
   Live birth is required.  If no live birth occurs non of the   
   provisions will ever apply.   
      
   >   
   >Both require the one thing that is contiguous.... in the life cycle.   
   >They require life be present and in the past determining the life or   
   >death of the person inside the uterus was not a reality, and our laws   
   >haven't caught-up to the medical technology that now sees into the   
   >uterus and can be used to determine life and even health of teh fetus   
   >without the birth of the human life inside the uterus making it possible   
   >to know the person receiving the items and RIGHTS is alive and legally   
   >able to take possession and/or exercise the RIGHT.   
      
   Or the present process is being unduly complicated by items   
   that are only potential and have no current application.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The mother held the gestating heir in the uterus but the same baby in   
   >>>> the uterus as the one outside the uterus was the heir, at least the DNA   
   >>>> suggested that.  The same DNA and same continuous life of that DNA at a   
   >>>> different age was able to become the owner of the estate...  just as   
   >>>> that same continuous DNA life could become an adult and vote for   
   >>>> Presidents at age 18.  SO age is NOT a reflection on continuous DNA   
   >>>> life, the DNA life didn't start at birth it simply reached the age of   
   >>>> birth which we call zero and the end of gestation.  NOT that there was   
   >>>> no life there before or that the DNA of that life changed or started   
   >>>> it's DNA life at birth.  It's simply a question of where age   
   >>>> chronologically started, and it's a bit arbitrary.  it's in the middle   
   >>>> of life, after roughly nine months of life has already passed and can't   
   >>>> be relived, it's gone and those 9 months are relative to life in the   
   >>>> midst of eternity because that life occupies a space in eternity that is   
   >>>> occupied by that life with that DNA... for 9 months before the   
   >>>> chronological clock of time is arbitrarily started.  Which means that   
   >>>> simply NOT counting the time there was life... is not the same as saying   
   >>>> life did not exist.  One is true the other is not, you don't count that   
   >>>> time as life but life did exist and the fact that life is continuous   
   >>>> from conception to death and only one DNA is there during that life   
   >>>> is proof that it started at conception whether you count it or not.   
   >>>> All it   
   >>>> means is you believe in FAKE science.   Close your eyes and the world   
   >>>> disappears, that must mean that you traveled to somewhere else, that's   
   >>>> if we use the FAKE SCIENCE of why a fetus' is not a human life.  All we   
   >>>> have to do is close our eyes and we don't see a life, but is it there in   
   >>>> that time or not.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
      
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