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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 7/2/22 11:13 AM, Somebody too wrote:   
   > On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 01:04:30 -0400, Attila <   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 21:02:08 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com   
   >> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 18:35:42 -0400, Attila <   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Imagine you shot some child... they die you get the death penalty,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That would be an accident or a proactive action.  It is not   
   >>>> the same as requiring me to do anything.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> you're forced with the threat of death by LETHAL INJECTION law... to   
   >>>>> give the blood they need to save that child which is your blood type or   
   >>>>> you'll be tried for murder and get the death penalty.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No law requires a person to provide a part of their body for   
   >>>> the benefit of another person.   
   >>>   
   >>> Congratulations!  You successfully changed the subject.  We were   
   >>> talking about a right to life in the context of not killing another   
   >>> person.   
   >>>   
   >>> Stick to that, ok?   
   >>   
   >> I am.  A woman is being forced to provide her body as a life   
   >> support system to another person if you consider a fetus as   
   >> a person.  She should not be forced to do this.   
   >>   
      
      
   If you are never going to get pregnant then another remedy is at hand   
   called tubal ligation. Or any number of other non surgical birth   
   controls...   
      
   >> Under no other conditions does this requirement exist.   
      
   I say it does, you can't kill a person because they make your life   
   inconvenient.   
      
   You have to feed your baby after you give birth... or you go to prison   
   for neglect when they die.   
      
      
   >> If a fetus is not a person she has a medical condition that   
   >> is easily remedied.   
      
   How was that medical condition created? Was it the fault of others, what   
   if we have to scrape her off the pavement and take her to the emergency   
   room and hook her up to life support regardless of the question of who   
   pays for it other than her?  Is that my responsibility or hers? But yet   
   the law says that I have give away an HOUR of my time at work or   
   hundreds of hours in taxes to pay for it? Is her 9 months of time worth   
   more than my nine months of time to pay taxes?   
      
      
      
   > No one is "forcing" anyone to do anything.   
      
      
   Well it's NOT force it's respecting the RIGHT of others...  to their own   
   life isn't it?   I have my time confiscated as tax and she has hers   
   confiscated as a tax in kind, being gestation vessel to the next   
   generation of tax payers.   
      
   Or you could apply that same scenario to my paying taxes and/or her   
   paying taxes for kids to go to school, if she has an abortion why is she   
   paying money and losing hours of her labor for her to educate those   
   children that aren't even hers because she killed her kids before they   
   were born and produced no new taxpayers...?   
      
      
   So why does she pay the school tax if she can't be forced to do so by   
   confiscation of her labor or to gestate a child for paying future taxes.   
   What is the difference when both school and pregnancy are at their core   
   costing her time/labor, one is the time to work to pay the tax and the   
   other is time to carry a life in her uterus which as a surrogate, could   
   create a good taxable income to pay for children to attend Government   
   schools. I suggest that the woman gets a tax credit for giving birth. It   
   is only fair.   
      
   It looks to me that what goes around comes around and by taxing me for   
   schools I don't have kids in, the Government is bleeding me of my   
   time/labor converted to taxes, which makes me think that if her   
   time/labor is consumed by Government laws or mandates that she is no   
   longer special is she.   
      
   She's *just another battery in the MATRIX*   
      
      
   Welcome to reality...   
      
      
      
      
      
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