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From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov
On 7/18/22 1:42 PM, -hh wrote:
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 7/17/22 12:38 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 10:11:03 AM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/22 7:53 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/16/22 2:23 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/15/2022 4:05 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 09:44:51 -0500, "Lee" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Electric vehicles flying off
>>>>>>>>> dealership lots amid high gas prices
>>>>>>>>> July 12
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where is the electricity coming from to power these, Lying Lee?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From the grid and from home solar panels, you stupid cocksucker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The real cost isn't the AVERAGE $41,000.00 cost of a new car/EV but also
>>>>>> includes the solar panels and charging system and/or the cost of the
>>>>>> GRID being upgraded to handle more electricity demand and black out
>>>>>> protection so the relays on the GRID don't start tripping and create a
>>>>>> blackout that puts an entire region into a black-out?
>>>>>
>>>>> Average ICE new car today is more than $47K, so there’s already
$6K/unit
>>>>> on hand to budget for infrastructure (or for buyers to take as a cost
savings).
>>>>
>>>> Given the rapid inflation the costs are climbing by $4K to $5K a year at
>>>> 10% inflation so we could, be using different years numbers and be off
>>>> by $10,000 simply by older data.
>>>
>>> If you had done any fact-checking, you would have known that your “what
if” is untrue.
>>>
>>>>>> And of course if 5% of the GRID ELECTRICITY use is the EV's charging,
>>>>>> then 5% of the GRID must be powered by SOLAR *and/or* WIND so that the
>>>>>> cars can be considered "sustainable" energy users and then after you
>>>>>> have built in 5% solar/wind on the grid the problem is all the Fossil
>>>>>> Fuel used to build those sustainable grid systems and the EV's
>>>>>> themselves and home SOLAR power systems that used fossil fuel to build
them.
>>>>>> It may take a while for the EV cars and the grid to reach a zero Carbon
>>>>>> point of return on the sustainable energy use so they are no longer
>>>>>> Carbon negative as they are when they come off the assembly lines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good thing then that renewables on the US electric grid is already at
20%.
>>>>> Your ‘concern’ was already obsolete back in 2010 (when it was at
10%).
>>>>
>>>> You neglect the fact that it's years before that 20% of the grid
>>>> reaches ZERO CARBON in it's life span.
>>>
>>> So? If’s already paying off in lower carbon emissions, so even if it
hasn’t
>>> yet literally been reversed, the rate of change is still slowing, reducing
the
>>> magnitude of what remains to be done.
>>
>> Paying off in a very costly way and requiring huge costs of people NOT
>> being able to buy food or get services or travel...
>
> Unfortunately, your claim of these insurmountable expenses is debunked
> by noting how they've already been present for a decade prior to this year's
> high inflation .. and strangely, despite how we're supposed to be doomed,
> it has not thusly come about.
>
It is coming about and in progress as the economy is presently being
destroyed.
>> and the real story
>> is that the GLOBAL WARMING cult is willing to kill people to achieve
>> their goals for their mythical CO2 solution or more accurately to reach
>> their NEW WORLD ORDER goals of a lower population which has been a
>> eugenics goal of the people who CREATED the GLOBAL WARMING MYTH. Those
>> eugenicist cultists goals are targeted at killing the persons least able
>> to protect themselves.
>
> Untrue. Those who are at greatest risk of harm are the ones who are
> at highest risk from continued climate divergence.
>
>
And yet we see it in the constant attempts to destroy RIGHTS and control
people and to allow that control to depopulate. As in forced vaccines
that don't cure and forced lock-downs and lost RIGHTS of the human life
in the uterus. None of which promoted human life.
>> But as we've seen with abortion, ...
>
> Diversion attempt.
>
>> Follow the logic.
>
> Your torturous logic fails Occam's Law.
>
Occam's Razor doesn't allow for Duplicitous Democrats having political
power.
And Occam's Razor isn't actually a law, more like a rule of thumb.
It's a place to start the research NOT a final word type of assumption.
>>>> All the GRID upgrades for that 20% also has to reach carbon neutral
>>>> before you can gleefully celebrate that the grid is 20% renewable energy.
>>>
>>> No, we can celebrate today that we are successfully slowing the rate.
>>
>> At what cost?
>
> Sustained lower net energy consumption expenses for the general public.
> Got a problem with that?
It seems to mean lower food production, lower ability to travel, less
flexibility in our lives, the idea of using energy to make life better
for the poor comes to mind since Democrast tell us that money makes the
poor live better and it cures the ills of poverty and since money is
actually based on energy be it human energy or fossil fuel energy or
wind/solar energy... Slavery was where HUMAN energy was stored, it was
stored in the human lives you owned and gold that human energy was used
to find and dig out of the earth by humans until they turned to fossil
energy to dig gold... then fossil energy value was stored in the gold
and the paper dollars, then history saw Republicans end slavery so
energy moved from beasts of burden to fossil fuel backed energy and the
GLOBAL WARMING CULT and NWO attacked the economy of Fossil fuel energy
to destroy and replace it... and apparently move backwards to slavery
and a feudal order of the little people having a lack of access to the
new control of the grid that will be future energy that wealth is based
on and which the unwashed masses will not actually have unfettered
access to use... it will be based on toy willingness to follow the rules
of the overlords who already see them as a source of bio-mechanical
energy to be used (like slaves) rather than as human beings with RIGHTS.
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