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From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov
On 8/8/22 2:45 PM, -hh wrote:
> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 2:29:52 PM UTC-4, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 8/8/22 12:45, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:55:19 PM UTC-4, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>> Jane Playne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think capitalism is bad, you should visit a socialist country.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you don't see any problems whatsoever.
>>>>
>>>> Classical Nationalism blindness. Probably also thinks that burning the
flag
>>>> should be a capital offense, not free speech.
>>>
>>> It's also the usual confusion that capitalism = enterpreneurship
>>> and capitalism = open markets. Capitalism is just one of many
>>> ways to fund economic developement. Clowns like Jayne have
>>> blinded themselves to alternatives and so can learn what are
>>> possible improvements and detriments.
>>
>> Huh?
>> Please explain.
>
> In a nutshell, capitalism doesn't guarantee the things people tend to
> associate with it, such as open markets, innovation, etc. Capitalism
> does tends to breed 'survival of the fittest', but it does not prevent
> distortions such as monopoly power over pricing & services: its the
> government who does that consumer protection role, via anti-trust laws/etc.
Government has the goal of making our RIGHTS able to be equally
exercised by all persons when interacting with government and to make
government enforced laws that don't favor one person or group being
preferred or able to exercise their RIGHTS over others ability to
exercise their RIGHTS.
The Government has no Delegated power to try to force individual persons
or groups of persons to a religion or other belief of what is or is not
moral. Government is simply there to protect your RIGHTS from being
violated. NOT to decide whether or NOT you can exercise which ever RIGHT
you already have, unless those right conflict with others rights.
Capitalism is economic theory, Democracy is a political system. That's
why Socialism which combines economics and politics is a failure, like a
THEOCRACY which is also a combination of RELIGION and politics as one.
Capitalism is a NATURAL STATE OF HUMAN KIND, trading goods for mutual
benefit, people getting together to engage in voluntary commerce is
separate from the politics, on the other hand Theocracy and Socialism
interfere with politics while Capitalism is actually independent and
separate from the politics. The Constitution promotes capitalist
economics to allow more liberty and freedom of commerce and ownership...
all for independent personal liberty, something that can't be achieved
by Socialist and Religious mandated economics. *The basis of Capitalism*
*is freedom to engage in commerce* that doesn't interfere with the
political goals of the Constitutional Republic.
When you try to turn Capitalism into a political persuasion like a
theology or Socialism where the body politics becomes the driver of the
commerce is when you lose that independent NATURAL STATE OF HUMAN
ACTIVITY and it becomes more like a CULT or an authoritarian life of
slavery. Economic liberty and unalienable RIGHTS are necessary to avoid
slavery. Which is just form of an authoritarian cult. Which is why
Socialism and Theocracy are just more authoritarian cult type systems
that lack liberty.
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Article IV
Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this
Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them
against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the
Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic
Violence.
Article I
Section 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes,
Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common
Defence and general Welfare of the United States
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States,
and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the
subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix
the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and
current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for
limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their
respective Writings and Discoveries;
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Which means the owners of property have a RIGHT with Constitutional
protections that only allow some limits on that freedom of commerce be
be delegated powers to the United States Government, to engage in. For
instance the Commerce clause "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations,
and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;" No power to
regulate what you do that isn't intended for interstate commerce.
The rest is for the States to regulate or for the people to regulate
their own exercising of their freedom to engage in commerce and owning
property as needed to satisfy their own happiness.
Government powers were not created by man to be superior to the
individual, but to be subservient to the individuals unalienable RIGHTS
that are not removed, powers are delegated in the Constitution to allow
RIGHTS to be equally exercised by all where those RIGHTS conflict with
other person's unalienable RIGHTS. To create equal access to your
unalienable RIGHTS, the government creates *CIVIL-LIBERTIES* which are
always subservient to our unalienable RIGHTS.
The system is based on you having all YOUR unalienable RIGHTS, with the
exception of those having been delegated as *LIMITED* powers to the
United States or denied to the States leaving the States with limited
powers. Either way the unalienable RIGHTS are yours until they are
either delegated to the United States or delegated somewhere else by
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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