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|    BeamMeUpScotty to Ubiquitous    |
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|    10 Aug 22 10:20:02    |
      XPost: alt.politics.congress, alt.politics.corruption, alt.politics.economics       XPost: alt.politics.election, alt.politics.misc, alt.politics.obama       XPost: alt.politics.scorched-earth, alt.politics.socialism.mao,        lt.politics.trump       XPost: alt.global-warming, alt.conspiracy, alt.apocolypse       XPost: alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.infowars       XPost: alt.beam-me-up.scotty.there-is-no.intelligent-life.down-here,       alt.politics.guns, alt.politics.elections       XPost: alt.politics.usa       From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov              On 8/9/22 9:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:       > According to reports, the FBI searched Mar-A-Lago as part of an       > investigation about the handling of classified documents. Will this be       > the action that finally stops Trump? Several progressive commentators       > gleefully pointed to 18 U.S.C. § 2071. It provides:       >       > Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding,       > map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and       > unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates,       > falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this       > title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and       > shall forfeit his office and be _disqualified from holding any       > office under the United States_. As used in this subsection,       > the term "office" does not include the office held by any       > person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United       > States.                     The problem with the Democrats theory that they can ban TRUMP from       office using a law is that the Constitution is superior to the laws...       and the Constitution sets the "requirements" of the person running for       the Presidency.              There can be no added limitations without an Amendment to the       Constitution and Democrats can't do that before this election.              Which makes this the continuation of the attempted Coup D`etat that has       been underway for 6 years to stop TRUMP from winning the election which       he most certainly will.                     >       > If Trump is convicted of violating this statute, can he be disqualified       > from the presidency? No. And my colleague Seth Barrett Tillman wrote       > about this precise issue in 2015. At the time, conservative       > commentators, including former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, argued       > that Hillary Clinton could be disqualified from the presidency due to       > the storage of classified materials on her private email server. Seth       > explained that Mukasey's argument does not work.              Another problem is that the President decides what is Classified and can       declassify it any time he decides, which pretty much means that a       President "EVEN AN INCOMPETENT IDIOT LIKE PUPPET JOE BIDEN" can       declassify or mishandle documents anytime he pleases... The President       is the Executive of the Executive Office. His powers can't be limited by       laws.... they are in the Constitution and that makes them superior to       any laws passed that might attempt to change the Constitutionally       delegated powers of the office. Again it takes a Constitutional       amendment to change the Constitution and laws are unable to re-delegate       or remove the powers that are already delegated. And there are no       ex-post-facto laws that are constitutional according to the Constitution.              Which means the chance of TRUMP being forced out of the election is       still ZERO... and TRUMP will win and I will absolutely vote for TRUMP if       Democrats attempt to stop him from running for office.              If the Democrats let the 2022 and 2024 election play out I'll vote for       who I like, if they attempt to use force and continue their Democrat run       Coup D`etat then I will have no choice but to vote for the very person       that they are attempting to engage in their Coup D`etat against.       Because that is the person least likely to helping the people running a       Coup D'etat that's designed to steal my political power.                     The days of having the facade of TWO choices... that are actually the       same choice since either candidate is still a PUPPET of the       establishment, and the Masters of the Planet Elite Overlords who think       that my having political power is a threat to them.              That is why they want to make my vote a HAKE process and they want to       steal my 2nd Amendment enumerated RIGHTS to keep and bear arms. It's       all part of that same Coup D`etat form the Democrats and their Overlords.              >       > Under Powell v. McCormack and U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton, Congress       > and the states cannot "add to the express textual qualifications for       > House and Senate seats in Article I." And that reasoning, Seth       > concluded, would seem to apply to the qualifications for the presidency       > in Article II. Several courts in the Seventh Circuit, and elsewhere,       > reached that same conclusion.       >       > On this blog, Mukasey later admitted that Tillman was correct, and he       > was wrong:       >       > [O]n reflection . . . Professor Tillman's [analysis] is spot       > on, and mine was mistaken. . . . The disqualification provision       > in Section 2071 may be a measure of how seriously Congress       > took the violation in question, and how seriously we should       > take it, but that's all it is.       >       > Tonight, Charlie Savage of the New York Times recounted this history in       > an article on the Trump search.       >       > Some Republicans were briefly entranced with whether the law       > could keep Mrs. Clinton out of the White House, including       > Michael Mukasey, a former attorney general in the       > administration of George W. Bush. So was at least one       > conservative think tank.       >              The Constitution and the elections is all that keep someone out of the       White House and Democrats can't change the Constitution, we know because       the Abortion RIGHT in the Constitution that was never there (but       Democrats say is there) is now not there.              Which shows that if it's NOT delegated by the Constitution or it's NOT       an unalienable RIGHT then it's a civil liberty and civil liberties can't       over ride unalienable RIGHTS.              The civil liberties created in the Constitution declare the       qualifications to become President of the united States and nothing       short of an Article 5 Amendment to change that, can change that. A USSC       ruling won't change the Constitution any more than it did when they       declared LEGAL ABORTION to be the law of the land. USSC RULINGS are       fluid like Democrats ideas of LGBTQ sexual re-assignment... and       abortion and slavery and alcohol consumption. Democrats want things that       they want, not things that are Constitutional. Democrats are       anti-Democratic and anti-American.                     > But in considering that situation, several legal scholars —       > including Seth B. Tillman of Maynouth University in Ireland       > and Eugene Volokh of the University of California, Los Angeles              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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