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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 8/13/22 1:30 PM, David Hartung wrote:   
   > On 8/12/22 21:01, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:32:59 -0400, Yak  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 8/12/22 2:54 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:17:04 -0400, Yak  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 8/12/22 9:09 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 17:57:01 -0400, Yak  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>> I did? If we have a patchwork of states, counties and cities why   
   >>>>>>> do we   
   >>>>>>> even need a dept of education?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> BECAUSE our education system is a patchwork.  An oversight entity   
   >>>>>> setting voluntary standards as we have now just isn't enough to   
   >>>>>> ensure   
   >>>>>> minimum educational standards.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The dept of ed has been in existence for over 40 years and hasn't   
   >>>>> figured out a way to get it right. Not that I'm one bit surprised,   
   >>>>> though. It has proven to be a shitty oversight agency that chases and   
   >>>>> wastes good dollar after bad. Time to scrap it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> At least you got the department's age right this time.   
   >>>   
   >>> LOL...I did didn't I.   
   >>>   
   >>>> The biggest struggle is the school systems they work with.  Those   
   >>>> state and local school systems cheat in their chase of Federal   
   >>>> dollars.   
   >>>   
   >>> So, govt schools cheat to get money. Imagine that.   
   >>   
   >> That's how desperate states are to avoid budgeting money for   
   >> education.   
   >>   
   >>>> No Child Left Behind failed because rather than enhance education on   
   >>>> the core subjects, local systems simply gave the test answers to the   
   >>>> students.  At the time this cheat was referred to euphemistically as   
   >>>> "teaching to the test".   
   >>>   
   >>> Yeah, one size fits all doesn't work. That's why education should be   
   >>> left to the states and localities. And, the dept of ed needs to be   
   >>> shuttered.   
   >>>   
   >>>> I personally favor expansion of the Department   
   >>>   
   >>> Oh yes, more govt. That's always a great solution.   
   >>>   
   >>>> and more enforcement power over standards.   
   >>>   
   >>> Enforcement power...is that why the dept of ed has guns?   
   >>>   
   >>>> The US cannot afford to continue to fall behind   
   >>>> in education in our ever more technological world.   
   >>>   
   >>> And the fed govt is just the one to make it better.   
   >>>   
   >>> In case you missed it, that is sarcasm.   
   >>   
   >> Actually, you're right.  Over the past 250 years, the US govt has   
   >> taken this country from a weak confederation of former British   
   >> colonies to the richest, most powerful nation in human history.   
   >>   
   >> Hmm . . .  You know, I think I trust the govt more than I trust you.   
   >>   
   >> Out of curiosity, if the govt doesn't run the school systems, who   
   >> would you turn the job over to?   
   >   
   > The local school board.   
      
   The local government schools are WELFARE BASED EDUCATIONS, 90% should be   
   seeking and getting private educations. School taxes are WELFARE TAXES.   
   It's redistribution and minimal basic education for the poor via   
   TRANSFER PAYMENTS. This is where the wealthy land owners are taxed to   
   pay to educate the poor.  Yes it is LITERALLY a tax on your property   
   that pays the schools taxes, whether you send kids to those schools or   
   not. You might even say the school system is the purest form of   
   Socialism that exists in the United States today wealthy or poor you   
   qualify, and ironically it's now also one of the largest failed systems   
   in America.   
      
   Why have an education system based on welfare one size fits all   
   standards, as the standard? Not to mention that the PUBLIC EDUCATION   
   system has already failed.  It's imploding and collapsing.  You can't   
   expect every child to be an Einstein... because while that potential for   
   the next Einstein is out there, Public School is now a deterrent to that   
   student ever rising above the lowest common denominator. In order to try   
   to keep the failures from being failures the exceptional are being   
   sacrificed to the Gods of Mediocrity.   How's that working for you?   
      
   The PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM SHOULDN'T have lasted this long and the Federal   
   Government has financially supported failed systems and they do it all   
   the time, when they see failure... rather than cutting the loss and   
   changing they always pass more laws to regulate more and also spend more   
   money on the failed system because they think the problem is the   
   execution and NOT their political policies that failed.  And they'll   
   spend as much of your paycheck as they need to prove that they're correct.   
      
      
   --   
   -That's karma-   
      
   The result is DEMOCRATS lies about history and reality to themselves and   
   others means their attempts to figure-out what's wrong is an exercise in   
   futility, because what they think they know they really don't know, and   
   fixing problems without the truth... becomes a fools errand.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)