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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 8/13/22 1:32 PM, NoBody wrote:   
   > On 8/13/2022 7:46 AM, David Hartung wrote:   
   >> https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/brea   
   ing-trump-describes-process-how-he-declassified-documents   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> [...]   
   >> Donald Trump's office told Just the News on Friday that the classified   
   >> materials the FBI seized from his Mar-a-Lago estate were declassified   
   >> under a "standing order" while he was president that allowed him to   
   >> take sensitive materials to the White House residence at night to keep   
   >> working.   
   >>   
   >> The official statement is likely to become the focus of the   
   >> president's legal defense as the FBI and Biden Justice Department   
   >> investigate whether he stole records covered under the Presidential   
   >> Records Act or mishandled classified materials under the Espionage   
   >> Act, allegations included in a search warrant released by a federal   
   >> court in Florida on Friday.   
   >>   
   >> The president's defense is rooted in the legal principal that the   
   >> president and vice president are the ultimate declassifying authority   
   >> of the U.S. government and through executive orders most recently   
   >> issued in 2003 by George W. Bush and Barack Obama in 2009 that   
   >> specifically exempt the president and vice president from having to   
   >> follow the stringent declassification procedures every other federal   
   >> agency and official must follow.   
   >>   
   >> Trump has maintained for weeks that any documents still containing   
   >> classified markings in his possession after he left office were   
   >> previously declassified. On Friday night, the statement issued to Just   
   >> the News explained exactly how that declassification occurred in his   
   >> mind.   
   >>   
   >> The very fact that these documents were present at Mar-a-Lago means   
   >> they couldn’t have been classified," the former president's office   
   >> stated. "As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring   
   >> home their work from time to time. American presidents are no   
   >> different. President Trump, in order to prepare for work the next day,   
   >> often took documents including classified documents from the Oval   
   >> Office to the residence.   
   >>   
   >> "He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office   
   >> and taken into the residence were deemed to be declassified," the   
   >> statement added. "The power to classify and declassify documents rests   
   >> solely with the President of the United States. The idea that some   
   >> paper-pushing bureaucrat, with classification authority delegated BY   
   >> THE PRESIDENT, needs to approve of declassification is absurd."   
   >> [...]   
   >>   
   >> So if the President is the ultimate authority to declassify documents,   
   >> materials and events, how could he be guilty of improperly possessing   
   >> classified documents?   
   >   
   > First, Trump did not declassify these documents.  The claim that he did   
   > is garbage.  Second, even if they were declassified, he stole them and   
   > refused to return them.  He wasn't "negotiating" their return.  He   
   > simply refused to return them.   
      
      
   TRUMP was President, and what he does with classified information is   
   "the law" because the Constitution give him the power to access all   
   executive Branch information because the President is the Executive who   
   is the Executive Branch... all others there work for him.   
      
   There is no classification that restricts the President's use of   
   classified Material.  SO if he used it in a manner that would violate   
   it's classification, then it's not a crime it's an exception made by the   
   SOLE POWER of the EXECUTIVE.  Which is why everyone who works in the   
   executive BRANCH just says "yes sir" when the president wants something.   
      
   If the President wants a classified document it's NOT a process to see   
   if the President can access that Executive Branch document, it's simply   
   "yes sir".   
      
   SO if TRUMP says he declassified it, it's declassified. You can call it   
   poor judgment or even a NATIONAL security problem but you can't call it   
   a crime when the Constitution actually delegated the power of the   
   Executive BRANCH to one person and that person sits in the Oval Office   
   which is the office of the President... which is why Joe Biden being   
   there is so dangerous... you can't restrict the power of the prestden to   
   create chaos and undermine the United States because it takes a   
   Constitutional Amendment to do that and it would make the NATION less   
   secure.  Leading by committee is a failure everywhere it's tried.  Just   
   look at Socialism/Communism, unless there is an authoritarian dictator   
   then Socialism fails and it usually ends with the Authoritarian's loss   
   of control where the economy reverts back to the NATURAL system of   
   Capitalism. WIth a strong President that has Constituional limitation we   
   don't fall under Authoritarianism and we tend to seek and prefer the   
   NATURAL stste of Capitalism.   
      
      
      
   --   
   -That's karma-   
      
   The result is DEMOCRATS lies about history and reality to themselves and   
   others means their attempts to figure-out what's wrong is an exercise in   
   futility, because what they think they know they really don't know, and   
   fixing problems without the truth... becomes a fools errand.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)