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From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov
On 8/19/22 4:40 PM, -hh wrote:
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:31:17 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 8/19/22 1:38 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 1:14:24 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>> On 8/19/22 10:37 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On 8/19/2022 2:58 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/18/22 21:02, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote in
>>>>>>> news:X0idnRfSwek7VGP_...@giganews.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CO2 is plant food, the basis of all life on Earth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CO2 is not a pollutant. It is essential to all life on Earth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Put a plastic bag over your head.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Breathe and rebreathe your own CO2
>>>>>>> for 10 minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tell us how to notify your next of
>>>>>>> kin afterwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your point?
>>>>>
>>>>> Too much CO2 is bad. That's the point.
>>>>
>>>> If CO2 Helps plants grow and plants use the CO2 and exhaust Oxygen, then
>>>> the CO2 from fossil Fuel also becomes Oxygen, How is that a problem?
>>>
>>> Because you can't simply assume "more plants!".
>>>
>>>> What you need to do is grow more plants more efficiently or grow
>>>> Plankton that produces even more Oxygen by using the CO2 and water
>>>> covers 70 percent of the planet. No shortage of water here, just a
>>>> shortage of brain power to get it where it needs to be and keep it clean.
>>>
>>> Oh, so then it sounds like you do admit that there's anthropogenic sourced
>>> CO2 that needs to be reduced, and these are methods to do so.
>>
>> NO I'm telling you that the least damage is the best policy and …
>
> But if its not human caused, then it’s not damage, so why are you seeking
to reverse it?
>
I'm NOT trying to reverse it, I'm trying to save lives... you're trying
to reverse it, and your plan will cost a lot of lives.
>
>> increasing plants if/where you can because there's an increase in CO2
>> from somewhere... works whether it's human or volcanic CO2 or whether
>> the CO2 is really causing any problem or not... what damage does it do
>> to grow more plants? It seems like you can fuck it up and kill million
>> or Billions like you're doing with the depopulation plan using food and
>> energy ad disease as the catalyst to cause sickness and death. Or do it
>> smart.
>
> The “damage” is its economic cost, particularly vs other alternatives.
And I believe I addressed the economic cost, so far those costs are from
actions the GLOBAL WARMING cult has engaged in. The GREEN NEW DEAL.
>
>>> Okay ... but they aren't free to develop and deploy. So how much do these
>>> methods cost versus other equally technologically feasible alternatives?
>>> Shouldn't we prioritize lower cost methods over the more expensive ones?
>>
>> Low cost is to get people to need to plant more green stuff and and way
>> to do that is to show some science that isn't Consensus and get rid of
>> regulation that create wage and price or supply and demand.
>
> So have you demonstrated thst “plant more” is the lowest cost
alternative?
> Or is that merely your belief/guess?
>
You claim to have all the data, you tell me why it's NOT practical. SO
I can address your fears.
>>
>
>
>>> Case in point, look up BIO-Dynamic farming and how much it costs per acre.
>>
>> Yes and it cuts out a lot of cancer causing chemicals which, if priced
>> into the cost of those cancer victims financial and human loses, it's
>> probably cheaper than growing food in the usual "throw chemicals down"
>> and cut labor costs kind of way.
>
> Again, just speculation on your part. Besides, ‘Big Ag’ isn’t the
only way to
> grow..one can also go “normal” organic.
>
Ironically but Organic is a form of BIO-DYNAMIC farming as is
regenerative farming and many other styles that are spin-off's within
the over all BIO-DYNAMIC system.
All have their points of interest even Hügelkultur and other food
forests use the basics of bio-dynamics.
>
>>
>> NO system is going to be perfect but, there are ways to cut oil use and
>> create more green at the same time.... getting a two for one and cutting
>> costs over the long term, but we'd have to restructure taxes and undo
>> the regulation and NOT create new regulation that stifle land owners and
>> farmers and the choices people have. People will make the right choice
>> most of the time or they will die on their own without your help.
>
> Nah, they’ll make choices who ha are in their own self-interests,
You say that like it's bad, again you Contradict your religion Evolution
and ideology of of Darwinism. You don't live by the rules that the
strong and smart will create the next generation because it's in their
self interest. The Democrat elites all want to be Kings.
> so if there
> aren’t adequate government regulations to identify and include the costs of
> externalities, they’ll exploit that gap for personal gain.
Will you buy carcinogen laden foods, or drive a car that will kill your
children? Only a percentage of the population are psychopaths or
sociopaths who don't have any empathy or remorse or interest in helping
others, if you're one you may not have recognized that fact.
>
>> Why do you tell us you believe in EVOLUTION and Darwinism and the smart
>> and the strong survive and then contradict that by telling us that you
>> have to decide for everyone what is smart or healthy? Seems like you're
>> lying and don't really believe your own rhetoric when you don't live by it.
>
> Why don’t you tell us that you’re not capable of making a post without a
straw man in it?
Reality is a harsh thing isn't it, you run and hide everytime I show it
to you.
*Democrat Policy is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*
--
-That's karma-
The result is DEMOCRATS lies about history and reality to themselves and
others means their attempts to figure-out what's wrong is an exercise in
futility, because what they think they know they really don't know, and
fixing problems without the truth... becomes a fools errand.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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