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|    BeamMeUpScotty to BeamMeUpScotty    |
|    Re: Is a Fetus a Person? An Anti-Abortio    |
|    23 Aug 22 15:45:27    |
      [continued from previous message]              CIVIL RIGHTS in the Constitution that are afforded to "persons". The       process of "Person-hood" would be equal to the process of "Citizenship"       being created at birth inside the United States, and would require the       illegal aliens be NATURALIZED to become a "person" who enjoys the       protections delegated to "persons" in the U.S. Constitution.              That makes it a logic issue and the Democrats no longer have the       delegated power to allow illegal aliens to roam free /or/ the Democrats       can no longer tell us that a human life in the uterus is NOT a person       from conception... It's "either/or" NOT both. Being a person from       somewhere must be universal and from conception for all human life or       it's exclusively American and enjoys the (mutually exclusive U.S.       Constitution and U.S. Governments delegated powers).              You can't say all people are "persons" even when born in foreign nations       because the U.S. Government can't make them "persons" if they are born       elsewhere. Because the U.S. Constitution and Government doesn't have       jurisdiction in other NATIONS.              One or the other is TRUE either "Illegal Aliens" are "NOT persons" /or/       all human life in the uterus "is a person" from the moment of CONCEPTION.                     *SO WHICH IS IT* ?                     There's a lot of white space at the end of MY text for you to explain       without deleting the FACTS I posted.                                   Amendment V       No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous       crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in       cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in       actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be       subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or       limb; *nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness*       *against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property* ,       *without due process of law* ; nor shall private property be taken for       public use, without just compensation.                     Witness against "Himself", nor deprived of life?              We are a "self" and a "human life" and a "person" due to our unique DNA       and the environmental influences of the interactions while in the       uterus, and after we're born. If life is an unalienable RIGHT protected       by the Constitution, then like all unalienable RIGHTS it starts at       conception with your NATURAL creation and your creator who ever you       belive that creator is (be it space aliens or Evolution and Darwinism or       be it a God), and your CIVIL RIGHTS begin when the GOVERNMENT tells you       they BEGIN and that is BIRTH for the most part.                                   Amendment XIII       Section 1. *Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude* , *except as a*       *punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted*       , shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their       jurisdiction.              Amendment XIV       Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and       subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States       and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any       law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the       United States; *nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty*       , *or property* , *without due process of law* ; *nor deny to any*       *person* *within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws* .                            You'll have to understand what RIGHT are and what Civil Liberties are       and the difference between an UNALIENABLE RIGHT and a CIVIL LIBERTY is.                            What a fucking mess the Democrats have made of the U.S. Constitution.                                          --       -That's karma-              The result is DEMOCRATS lies about history and reality to themselves and       others means their attempts to figure-out what's wrong is an exercise in       futility, because what they think they know they really don't know, and       fixing problems without the truth... becomes a fools errand.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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