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|    anim8rfsk to Ubiquitous    |
|    Re: THE BIG [CENSORED] THEORY (2/2)    |
|    31 Aug 22 12:01:05    |
      [continued from previous message]              > removal is harder to understand, as they seem really harmless.       >       > Meanwhile, some types of scenes that were removed from The Big Bang       > Theory were allowed to remain in native productions.       >       > For instance, in season two, episode 15 of The Big Bang Theory, a six-       > second kissing scene was cut from the Youku version, while the       > streaming platform allowed a 42-second kissing scene in the Chinese       > drama Because of Love to air.       >       > Penny and Leonard are kissing on a couch.       > The Big Bang Theory: Season 2 Episode 15       > A female character and a male character are kissing under the shower.       > Because of Love: Episode 12       > Similarly, a naked back in season three, episode 21 was cut              Ah, the infamous slasher episode                            while in a       > show called Stealth Walker (2021) on Youku, the nude back remained.       >       > Dr. Elizabeth Plimpton is taking off her pajamas.       > The Big Bang Theory: Season 3 Episode 21       > A woman with a naked back under shower.       > Stealth Walker: Episode 1       > Such unequal treatment is bizarre. According to the governmental       > guidelines, imported productions have only one more forbidden content       > category to consider than national ones the imported productions must       > not show anything that would do harm to minors physical and mental       > health. The remaining forbidden content types, including nudity,       > violence, and promoting the negative parts of society, are the same for       > national and imported productions.       >       > As there are no legal roots, this may come down to self-policing by       > Chinese companies, who actually make the cuts and seek official       > approval before releasing the show. The self-policing can be rather       > relaxed, but that may result in multiple rounds of months-long       > scrutiny.       >       > Here is where things get especially interesting to avoid the rabbit       > hole of scrutiny, streaming platforms may go overboard to censor       > themselves to make sure a video can pass the national censorship       > authoritys review on the very first try. And that often results in       > inconsistency, even in a national show itself.       >       > The TV show Marvelous Women              Are they talking about marvelous woman and fabulous cat?                             streamed a very controversial scene last       > year, in which a real cat dropped from a table and landed on the ground       > on its back. It was meant to show a cat being poisoned, but after it       > was aired, netizens suspected that the crew might have killed an actual       > cat, instead of using CGI.       >       > Missy is talking about putting down a dog due to illness.       > The Big Bang Theory: Season 1 Episode 15       > A cat drops to the ground after being poisoned.       > Marvelous Women: Episode 32       > The scene was removed after the resulting controversy. Notably, it was       > not removed ahead of time through censorship. Meanwhile, a three-second       > line was cut out of The Big Bang Theory because the character mentioned       > the mercy killing of a dog.              Outside of a restaurant context                     >       > These acts of censorship not only limit the impact of foreign-based       > productions, they also help the Chinese government maintain control.       > That is why Facebook and Twitter are banned in the country, as well as       > Netflix, HBO, and others. The government wants to have final say on the       > messages reaching the public.       >       > This approach could severely limit the quality and types of shows that       > are produced in China. Infernal Affairs (2002), a classic Hong Kong       > crime movie, reshot a different ending for the Chinese mainland and       > Malaysia. The new ending was considered a clunker, but perfectly       > aligned with Chinas main melody perspective that justice always       > wins. The Departed (2006), an Oscar-winning remake of Infernal Affairs,       > is not allowed to air in the Chinese mainland, even though its ending       > also highlights justice.       >       > The movie was also remade into a namesake Chinese TV series in 2016,       > developed by a Chinese mainland production team. That TV series is only       > rated 6.1 out of 10 on Chinas IMDb while the 2002 movie version has a       > 9.3 rating and the American version has a 7.3.       >       > Hong Kong-based journalist and author Nury Vittachi shared a similar       > experience in a New York Times opinion piece, describing that a crime       > story he co-wrote with a Chinese director had to be rejiggered multiple       > times, finally resulting in an implausible tale that involves noble       > detectives of Chinese origin in order to pass the authorities review.       >       > The rules kill creativity, Vittachi added.       >       > When the Netflix-produced Korean show Squid Game went viral and won       > awards worldwide, many Chinese netizens were asking on social media        > when can a Chinese TV show be recognized in that way?       >       > I cant blame the sites for not importing more big-name TV shows, or       > the domestic studios for not producing similar content. For some, even       > if the show or concept is popular as hell, it just isnt worth the       > hassle.       >       > Even though China has been trying to boost its cultural soft power for       > years, its unlikely that the dream of making a worldwide popular show       > will come true any time soon. To appeal to a global audience, the       > government would first need to be more tolerant of the kind of material       > it removes from TV-14 sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory.       >       > Data and Methods: I watched the first 100 episodes of The Big Bang       > Theory that stream in the U.S. and on Youku, side by side, and tracked       > 206 missing scenes from the Youku version. The sample videos       > demonstrated above are all picked out from the pool of missing scenes.       >       > The first scene is an original cut from Youku. The censored version of       > other scenes are based on timestamping the Youku version and then       > programmatically skipping using the original scene.       >       > In order to figure out the reason for the video censorship, I       > categorized the missing scenes into seven categories.       >       > (1) Sex: scenes include conversations with sexual descriptions, body       > parts, and relevant keywords, such as coitus or have sex. Scenes       > that demonstrate two characters kissing for several seconds or show       > partial nudity will also be included in this category.       >       > (2) LGBTQ+ and atypical heterosexual relationships: scenes in which       > characters mention things like the LGBTQ+ community or romantic       > encounters with family members or inanimate objects. Scenes       > demonstrating kissing or other physical intimacy between two characters       > of the same gender are included as well.       >       > (3) Disrespect: scenes include dialogues that could potentially defame       > Chinese culture, Chinas society, Chinese people, or even Chinese       > restaurants in the U.S.       >       > (4) Illegal actions: scenes in which characters mentioned anything that       > is illegal in China, including murder, drunk driving, and egg freezing.       >       > (5) Religion: scenes in which characters said anything that could       > potentially offend habits or beliefs of a religion.       >       > (6) Unhealthy addictions: scenes in which unhealthy addictions came up       > in a conversation, such as alcoholism, drug addiction, and gambling.       >       > (7) Miscellaneous: scenes that do not belong to any one of the former       > six categories.       >       > To see the clips and such:       > https://pudding.cool/2022/08/censorship/       >       > --       > Let's go Brandon!       >       >                            --       The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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