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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 9/7/22 2:51 PM, Caesium wrote:   
   > Solar panels seem like a great idea.   
   >   
   > Absorb energy from the sun and convert it into electricity.   
   >   
   > There's no combustion, so no smoke, ashes, CO2 or other annoyances to deal   
   > with during the conversion.   
   >   
   > What's the down side?   
   >   
   > They are poisonous to make, they are poisonous when they break.  They   
   > cannot be profitably recycled - AND - damaged panels instantly become   
   > hazardous, and classified as such, due to their heavy metal contents.   
   >   
   > Hence, they are classified as hazardous waste. The authors note that this   
   > classification carries with it a string of expensive restrictions —   
   > hazardous waste can only be transported at designated times and via select   
   > routes, etc.”   
   >   
   > What's the other down side?   
   >   
   > They contribute to global warming.  In a big way.  Solar panels are dark   
   > and absorb sunlight generating electricity and heat.  The surface heat of   
   > solar panels can exceed 150°F.   
      
      
   At 160-180°F you could distill alcohol and at 210°F you can distill   
   water to make clean distilled water...  SO they could be cooled with sea   
   water that is then dumped into a water distiller to do the final heating   
     of 20-40°F by a solar oven type of reflector all around the coolant   
   pipe  for concentration of sunlight.  Then you use the wasted heat to   
   make clean water.   
      
   Having a 2nd way to use that heat (distilling water) would make it more   
   heat efficient and cost effective.   
      
      
   > The heat has no place to go but into the atmosphere.   
      
   Which is why you need a cooling system that heats the water, drawing off   
   all that heat to a useful project that can be a money generating way to   
   cool solar panels and to distill water at the same time.   
      
   > Yes, argues the   
   > solar industry peddlers, but the heat does dissipate.  Quite so, but the   
   > reflective heat is still generated in massive amounts, will "reheat" air   
   > in front of the panels and contribute to "heat islands".   
   >   
   > The solar panel absorbs about 30% of the suns heat energy, re-emits half   
   > out toward the sky and half toward the roof, which absorbs about 30% of   
   > the heat emitted by the solar panel or only 5% of the sun's heat (30% of   
   > 50% of 30%).   
   >   
      
   You could store that heat in water and heat houses for people or Green   
   Houses for growing food.  Stare building housing like Honey Combs so   
   that you have six honeycomb properties surrounding an empty honey comb   
   property in the center of those six properties and build a solar panel   
   and vacuum tube water heater combo that will heat houses in winter and   
   cool the solar panels and/or Air Conditioners high pressure side in the   
   summer heat... They make thermal electronic coolers now where you heat   
   on side of the electronic part and it causes the other side to get cool.   
      
      
   > So who benefits from this charade?   
   >   
   > Green industry because of government subsidies mostly.  Unwitting   
   > homeowners will be stuck with hazardous cleanup costs down the road.   
   > Obtuse tree huggers, coal / petroleum hating climatists falsely believe   
   > their agendas are vindicated.   
      
   Subsidies are the enemy of truth and progress, you can't build an   
   economy on lies and expect it to function very well...   
      
   >   
   > Every solar panel owner contributes to global warming.   
   >   
   > Topaz Solar Farm in California contributes 7.3 square miles of reflected   
   > 150°F heat every single day during peak operation hours.  Humans can   
   > survive for approximately 10 minutes in 140°F temperatures.   
   >   
   > Climate advocates never think things like this through.   
      
      
   Democrats are reaction oriented, they run on feelings not TRUTH FACT and   
   LOGIC.   
      
   *Democrat Policy is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*   
      
      
      
      
      
   --   
   -That's karma-   
      
   The result is DEMOCRATS lies about history and reality to themselves and   
   others means their attempts to figure-out what's wrong is an exercise in   
   futility, because what they think they know they really don't know, and   
   fixing problems without the truth... becomes a fools errand.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)