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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 9/14/22 11:45 AM, Lee wrote:   
   > David Hartung wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 9/13/22 10:42, Lee wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Republicans Move to Ban Abortion Nationwide   
   >>> September 13, 2022   
   >>>   
   >>> With the morning we have a bit   
   >>> more clarity on the national   
   >>> abortion ban Lindsey Graham   
   >>> announced last night and says   
   >>> he will be introducing today in   
   >>> the Senate. It appears to be a   
   >>> national ban on abortions past   
   >>> 15 weeks, with as yet   
   >>> unspecified exceptions. It’s   
   >>> still possible that the number   
   >>> will be 20 weeks. We’ll have to   
   >>> see that detail. This NBC News   
   >>> piece explains the strategy,   
   >>> which is more or less what we   
   >>> thought: an updated version of   
   >>> the GOP playbook over the last   
   >>> couple decades which is to move   
   >>> the debate from absolute bans,   
   >>> where their position is   
   >>> overwhelmingly unpopular, to   
   >>> “late term” abortions where a   
   >>> broad swathe of the public gets   
   >>> more squeamish and uncertain.   
   >>>   
   >>> https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/republicans-move-to-ban-abortio   
   >>> n-na tionwide   
   >>   
   >> If the nation wide legalization of abortion via Roe was   
   >> unconstitutional, so too is the national banning of abortion via   
   >> Federal legislation.   
   >   
   >   
   >     You think state abortion bans   
   > are constitutional but a national   
   > one is not? That makes no sense.   
      
   States have sovereign powers READ THE FUCKING Constitution and when I   
   say that I mean all the Amendments to it as well...   
      
   Pay close attention to Amendment 10, it's very self explanatory but you   
   have to be able to follow simple logic.   
      
   Amendment X   
   The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor   
   prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,   
   or to the people.   
      
   WE THE PEOPLE can decide to delegate a power to the United States   
   Through Article 5 and/or allow that power to the States by NOT denying   
   it to them... Two negatives, by *NOT* delegating a power over abortion   
   to the United States and then *NOT* denying that power to the States   
   means the States or the people have that power so if the States   
   Constitution allows it then the States have that power, if the States   
   Constitution doesn't allow it or the U.S. Constitution doesn't allow it   
   for States or the United States then, then it remains the RIGHT of the   
   people. The problem with abortion is that it's killing a human life and   
   we usually delegate the power to protect human life to the individual   
   States and thereby the local authority where life the is taking place.   
   Although Life is protected at the United State level of jurisdiction as   
   well.  And since they put people on trial in individual States for   
   murder and then on trial again for a Federal HATE CRIME, the obvious   
   point is that these are separate jurisdictions.   
      
      
   For example the power to make Abortion laws doesn't appear to be   
   delegated to the United States Government and also isn't denied to the   
   States. SO the States can make laws if their State Constitution allows   
   for it. Unless the United States Constitution says that life is   
   protected by due process... which would mean that a human life which is   
   a person from the point of conception is protected by the U.S.   
   Constitution, then the individual States would be limited by the 14th   
   Amendment clause that says "equal protection of the law" which also   
   applies to other civil rights.   
      
   And a different scenario is the 2nd Amendment that doesn't delegate a   
   power to the United States and does deny that power to the States, by   
   enumerating that it's THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, to keep and bear arms.   
      
   That means that power was NOT delegated to the United States and it was   
   denied to the States, leaving it the power/RIGHT of the people which it   
   always was before there was a United States.   
      
   Some States may have the Constitutional power to make laws on abortion   
   while others can't make laws on abortion, and that said... NONE of the   
   States may make laws and the United States can't make laws due to the   
   FACT that we have a RIGHT to keep and bear arms. And it's   
   expressed/enumerated as a RIGHT of the people in in U.S. Constitution.   
   Which means it's NOT a power delegated to the United States or the   
   allowed for the individual States. Because it's a RIGHT of the people.   
   And if you READ AMENDMENT 10 "are reserved to the States respectively,   
   or to the people" you notice it says *or* to the people. That means one   
   or the other NOT both the States and/or the people, it means or as in   
   one or the other... and Amendment 2 clearly makes the designation of it   
   being the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE.   
      
   And that same logic is contained in Amendment 10 when you read it.   
   Amendment 2 follows the logic of Amendment 10. And it denied that power   
   to the States by enumerating that the RIGHT to keep and bear arms, is a   
   RIGHT of the people and NOT a power of the individual States or the   
   Unites States.   
      
   READ THE U.S. Constitution it's NOT above a high school education but   
   Democrats seem to be stuck in a grade school mental ability... so being   
   Democrat may be the reason for so many people NOT grasping the simple   
   logic of the U.S. Constitution.  Things like ONLY the legislature can   
   make laws.  I know it's tough for Democrats to grasp reality but the   
   courts don't make laws, they can only rule them outside their courts   
   jurisdiction.  They can't fix laws or change them. They can't re-write   
   laws.  And there is no law library of laws written by the Courts.   
   Because it's NOT Constitutional.   
      
      
      
      
   --   
   -That's karma-   
      
   "Joe Biden is the most intelligent Democrat that the Democratic Party   
   could find..."   
      
   Add that to your list of scariest words you'll ever hear from the   
   Government.   
      
   Have Joe Biden read the Constitution on TV and stopping to explain what   
   each clause means as he reads it... See how much sense he can make ot   
   and you'll see why it's so obvious that Democrats don't understand a   
   simple high school level document.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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