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   BeamMeUpScotty to Jane Playne   
   Re: I have some questions...   
   25 Sep 22 09:58:35   
   
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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 9/24/22 9:25 PM, Jane Playne wrote:   
   > On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 4:39:40 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >> I have some questions...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> If Social Security and or Medicare is an *entitlement* that you earned,   
   >> why would there be any income level information that's relevant?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> You pay in and you're covered like any insurance you buy the policy that   
   >> is affordable and then your income and spending is none of the insurance   
   >> companies business... like car insurance. they have no idea what I earn   
   >> yet they cover my insurance policy as long as I keep paying the   
   >> premiums. And life insurance where you pay until you die or even "whole   
   >> life" policies where you pay until the money paid in is all that was   
   >> required... then you get the full benefits.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> But Social Security wants to know about your income and they base your   
   >> benefits on your life's income and post retirement income which seems to   
   >> violate the agreement of insurance and the idea of an entitlement (which   
   >> is something you earned or paid into) since they pay you the benefits   
   >> whether you're earning a high or low income the pay-out is what it was   
   >> supposed to be based on what you paid in, not what you earn after you   
   >> file for the entitlement. It's an entitlement like a retirement... you   
   >> don't pay into a PONZI SCHEME and then get the benefits based on the   
   >> number new people entering the PONZI SCHEME.   
   >>   
   >> Sounds like Social Security turned into a Socialism PONZI SCHEME fraud   
   >> to pay you less by stealing from you if you succeed in life and retire   
   >> at 65 with an income?   
   >>   
   >> And why do they tax people over 65... isn't 65 years enough? Do they   
   >> need to render your dead body down for the fat to burn so the Government   
   >> employees can get a pay raise from it?   
   >>   
   >> It seems the point of crazy is already in the rear view mirror... the   
   >> GOVERNMENT has gone stark raving mad.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> --   
   >> -That's karma-   
   >> -   
   >> -   
   >> -   
   >> -   
   >> -   
   >> -   
   >> Help save America, support the "Send a WEALTHY Democrat to a Communist   
   >> Homeland" fund, that's working hard to encourage less violence and hate   
   >> inside America's Borders   
   >>   
   >> Help make Martha's Vineyard an immigrant paradise and give the Wealthy   
   >> Democrats the Communism they want, all at the same time... Two Birds   
   >> one stone.   
   > .   
   >   
   > It is "sort of" a scam.  The reduction caused by earned income only applies   
   to people who take benefits before reaching "full retirement" age.   
   >   
   > For the first several decades of the Social Security program, everyone had   
   the same full retirement age: 65. But Congress introduced amendments in 1983   
   that would allow the normal retirement age to increase over time.[1] AND that   
   is where the "sort of    
   scam" comes into play.   
   >   
   > Since people born between 1943 & 1959 had already entered into the work   
   force by 1983, the government change the "insurance agreement" AFTER the   
   agreement between the worker and the SSA began.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > 1. "If you were born between 1943 and 1954, your FRA is 66.  If your birth   
   year is 1960 or after, your normal retirement age is 67. Anyone born between   
   1955 and 1959 has a normal retirement age between 66 and 67 – that is, 66   
   plus a certain number of    
   months."   
   >   
   And shouldn't we get those years back since the life expectancy has now   
   gone down again... thanks to Government lying about vaccines and locking   
   people down and the delusional idea that men can become women and women   
   can become men and the increase in suicide due to the FALSE promise that   
   cosmetic surgery would cure the mental problems of the sexually confused   
   TRANS and gays persons who instead end up committing suicide due to the   
   genital mutilation they're pushed towards by the POLITICAL POWERS.   
      
      
   It's what happens when the mentally ill are allowed to make the laws and   
   decide the treatment of themselves... somewhere along the way the   
   obvious failure will cause a problem and in this case the suicide rate   
   rises.   
      
   Fewer people on Social Security because they die younger means less cost   
   and people's incomes should NOT be considered as part of formula.   
      
   What's more is it's still a PONZI SCHEME because your benefits rely on   
   the PONZI SCHEME not on the actual dollars you invested(premiums you   
   paid into the system).   
      
   Which brings up the question of why you you still get charged a Medicare   
   premium when the original agreement was that your taxes paid into Social   
   Security were for your retirement NOT medicare which you paid a   
   different tax to create, and why pay a premium from your Social Security   
   for the Medicare Premium when you already paid into Medicare for 30   
   years?  Why do they dip into your Social Security and didn't Obama just   
   steal money from Medicare about 10 years ago to start his ObamaCare   
   system of FRACTIONAL SLAVERY that also asks you to pay yet another new   
   premium to get more government medical care?   
      
   And might I add that this is the medical care from the GOVERNMENT that   
   is lowing the life expectancy of Americans by telling them lies and   
   trying to force FAKE VACCINES on Americans.   
      
   It would seem that smaller less intrusive Government would be better for   
   Americans, given the FACT that larger more intrusive Government has NOT   
   improved our life style or longevity either before or after retirement.   
      
      
      
   --   
   -That's karma-   
   -   
   -   
   -   
   -   
   -   
   -   
   Help save America, support the "Send a WEALTHY Democrat to a Communist   
   Homeland" fund, that's working hard to encourage less violence and hate   
   inside America's Borders   
      
   Help make Martha's Vineyard an immigrant paradise and give the Wealthy   
   Democrats the Communism they want, all at the same time...  Two Birds   
   one stone.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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