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   BeamMeUpScotty to Lee   
   Re: Kim Davis Loses In Court, Yet Again   
   30 Sep 22 14:42:38   
   
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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 9/30/22 12:01 PM, Lee wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > Anti-Gay Marriage Former   
   > County Clerk Kim Davis   
   > Loses Bid for Qualified   
   > Immunity in Lawsuit   
   > Brought by Same-Sex   
   > Couples, Again   
   >   
   > Sep 29th, 2022   
   >   
   > Kim Davis, the former county   
   > clerk from Kentucky who   
   > refused to grant marriage   
   > licenses to same-sex couples   
   > after marriage equality was   
   > the law of the land, does not   
      
      
   Except that there was no STATE law forcing her to "grant" marriage   
   licenses to gay marriages...   
      
   The state laws on marriage had NOT been updated by State Legislators and   
   the federal laws on marriage don't exist.   
      
   Which means that on the days prior to the States Legislation change, she   
   was NOT violating any State law by not issuing licenses and there is no   
   Federal law on MARRIAGE.   
      
   She was held for contempt by a Federal Judge for NOT following the   
   courts mandates, which may actually have violated Kim Davis' civil rights.   
      
   > have qualified immunity, a   
   > federal court of appeals   
   > ruled on Thursday.   
      
   Immunity isn't a conviction or a finding of malice.   
   SO this is actually irrelevant to the law... It will end up in a court   
   room again at some point.   
      
   > Davis violated the “clearly   
   > established” rights of two   
   > couples – David Ermold and   
   > David Moore; and James Yates   
   > and Will Smith – to marry   
   > “when she declined to issue   
   > marriage licenses based on her   
   > belief that same-sex marriage   
   > was immoral,” Judge Richard   
   > Allen Griffin of the Sixth   
   > Circuit Court of Appeals wrote   
   > in the brief, five-page opinion.   
   >   
      
   And it isn't law, it's also false... it wasn't clearly established that   
   Federal judges could rewrite State laws.  The judge can find the State   
   law a violation of the U.S. Constitution, but the judge can't write new   
   State marriage law. What is the Marriage law once it's been nullified as   
   unconstitutional by the judge or more correctly, the law is found to be   
   outside the Jurisdictional power of the States legislature to write that   
   marriage law (because it was violating the 14th amendment), then it's   
   all very ambiguous as to what the Legislature wants the county clerk to   
   do with NON conforming licenses that don't meet current criteria on the   
   forms. Can she then also marry 3 men or two men and a goat since that's   
   also NOT a marriage law if the entire Marriage law was no longer in use.   
      
      
   Until it's re written and passed into law there would be no limits on   
   State marriages.   
      
      
   > This is the second time Davis   
   > lost an effort to claim qualified   
   > immunity for her repeated,   
   > unlawful denials of marriage   
   > licenses.   
   >   
   > https://lawandcrime.com/lgbtq/anti-gay-marriage-former-county-clerk-kim-   
   > davis-loses-bid-for-qualified-immunity-in-lawsuit-brought-by-same-sex-co   
   > uples-again/   
   >   
      
   All she really needs to do point out in response to any law suit, is   
   that the judge has no power to make state law and the standing legal   
   State criteria at that time didn't allow for a license to gays, and   
   while it wasn't illegal because the entire marriage law making it   
   illegal was unconstitutional, it was also NOT legal according to state   
   laws and forms provided to the county clerk.   
      
   And until a new State law and State new direction was legally obtained   
   by her, she would be violating State laws to act outside her   
   State/county authority. Which means until the Legislature legally   
   created "gay marriage" as a choice or option or the new law carefully   
   worded to make it legal under the U.S. Constitution, then it would be   
   the same as marrying a person to dog, it's NOT legal because there is no   
   legal option for it. The legal limits of the Legislature would need   
   clarification to know what unmentioned marriages were either acceptable   
   on that legal document called a marriage license being issued by the State.   
      
   Actually all marriage licenses should have been withheld until the issue   
   was resolved because the Federal Judge can't remove parts of a State law   
   and would have to simply declare the entire Marriage law as   
   unconstitutional, NOT just the "Man and Woman" clause part that's in the   
   law.   
      
   A Federal Judge has no power to select or change a State law. SO the   
   judge was guilty of violating Kim Davis' Civil Rights when she was held   
   on contempt charges.   
      
   Kim Davis should sue the original Federal Judge who jailed her and try   
   to have the judge impeached and disbarred. Because the Judge should have   
   stopped all marriage license issuing in the State, due to the law being   
   unconstitutional.   
      
      
      
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