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|    BeamMeUpScotty to John Dillinger    |
|    Re: Alex Jones was framed for a liabilit    |
|    12 Oct 22 17:16:12    |
      XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.politics.congress       XPost: alt.politics.corruption, alt.politics.economics, alt.politics.election       XPost: alt.politics.misc, alt.politics.obama, alt.politics.scorched-earth       XPost: alt.politics.socialism.mao, alt.politics.trump, alt.global-warming       XPost: alt.conspiracy, alt.apocolypse, alt.politics.usa       XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.infowars, alt.beam-me-up.scott       .there-is-no.intelligent-life.down-here       XPost: alt.politics.guns       From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov              On 10/12/22 4:00 PM, John Dillinger wrote:       > apnews.com       > Alex Jones ordered to pay $965 million for Sandy Hook lies       > By DAVE COLLINS       > 3-4 minutes       >       > WATERBURY, Conn. (AP) — The conspiracy theorist Alex Jones should pay       > $965 million to people who suffered from his false claim that the       > Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a hoax, a jury in       > Connecticut decided Wednesday.       >       > The verdict is the second big judgment against the Infowars host over       > his relentless promotion of the lie that the 2012 massacre never       > happened, and that the grieving families seen in news coverage were       > actors hired as part of a plot to take away people’s guns.       >       > It came in a lawsuit filed by the relatives of five children and three       > educators killed in the mass shooting, plus an FBI agent who was among       > the first responders to the scene. A Texas jury in August awarded       > nearly $50 million to the parents of another slain child.       >       > The Connecticut trial featured tearful testimony from parents and       > siblings of the victims, who told about how they were threatened and       > harassed for years by people who believed the lies told on Jones’       > show.       >       > Strangers showed up at their homes to record them. People hurled       > abusive comments on social media. Erica Lafferty, the daughter of       > slain Sandy Hook principal Dawn Hochsprung, testified that people       > mailed rape threats to her house. Mark Barden told of how conspiracy       > theorists had urinated on the grave of his 7-year-old son, Daniel, and       > threatened to dig up the coffin.       >       > Testifying during the trial, Jones acknowledged he had been wrong       > about Sandy Hook. The shooting was real, he said. But both in the       > courtroom and on his show, he was defiant.       >       > He called the proceedings a “kangaroo court,” mocked the judge, called       > the plaintiffs’ lawyer an ambulance chaser and labeled the case an       > affront to free speech rights. He claimed it was a conspiracy by       > Democrats and the media to silence him and put him out of business.       >       > “I’ve already said ‘I’m sorry’ hundreds of times and I’m done       saying       > I’m sorry,” he said during his testimony.       >       > Twenty children and six adults died in the shooting on Dec. 14, 2012.       > The defamation trial was held at a courthouse in Waterbury, about 20       > miles (32 kilometers) from Newtown, where the attack took place.       >       > The lawsuit accused Jones and Infowars’ parent company, Free Speech       > Systems, of using the mass killing to build his audience and make       > millions of dollars. Experts testified that Jones’ audience swelled       > when he made Sandy Hook a topic on the show, as did his revenue from       > product sales.       >       > In both the Texas lawsuit and the one in Connecticut, judges found the       > company liable for damages by default after Jones failed to cooperate       > with court rules on sharing evidence, including failing to turn over       > records that might have showed whether Infowars had profited from       > knowingly spreading misinformation about mass killings.       >       > Because he was already found liable, Jones was barred from mentioning       > free speech rights and other topics during his testimony.       >       > Jones now faces a third trial, in Texas around the end of the year, in       > a lawsuit filed by the parents of another child killed in the       > shooting.       >       > It is unclear how much of the verdicts Jones can afford to pay. During       > the trial in Texas, he testified he couldn’t afford any judgment over       > $2 million. Free Speech Systems has filed for bankruptcy protection.       > But an economist testified in the Texas proceeding that Jones and his       > company were worth as much as $270 million.       >       >       >       Just to get some prospective, how much did they get when they sued the       people who set up security at the school and the people that worked       there that didn't lock the doors or windows? Did they sue the people who       supplied electric to the school for NOT warning them that having       electric means they have lights and that means people can see to shoot       students and others so the electric might result in a shooting where       shooters can see their targets?              How was Alex Jones supposed to know that people would target those       families because he had a theory that was wrong? Does everyone who has a       theory have to prove it before they can make it public or be liable for       any weird things that happen or that other people do? Is it now a crime       or a liability to have an idea and make it public and if so why hasn't       Einstein been sued for his theories that produced a nuclear bomb that       was used to kill hundreds of thousands of Japanese?                     Which means that when they sued Alex Jones they got more for some tiny       little fly on the wall NEWS station that described the shooting as       having been staged rather than really being the cause of death for some       people? There are a lot of theories why are they actionable when it's       only a theory?                     What happens when other NEWS agencies get it wrong and blame the wrong       people for a crime? A Billion dollars seems a bit steep considering past       judgments for NEWS which is a 1st Amendment freedom...              President TRUMP didn't do what was in that Democratic Party "TRUMP       DOSSIER" apparently the Democrats should pay hundreds of Billions and       maybe a trillion for their theory that was false.              Amendment I       Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or       prohibiting the free exercise thereof; *or abridging the freedom of*       speech, or of *the press* ;              Didn't that judgment abridge free speech or will I get sued for       suggesting it, if it turns out I'm wrong and where the first Amendment       says freedom of the press they really mean the limited freedom of the       press where it doesn't actually says "limited"?              But you know, Democrats think it should...              Meanwhile the FBI lied the CDC the (World Health org) lied the FDA lied       Hillary lied Fauci lied... maybe a Billion dollars is not even close to       enough?              And that's just few of the Democrats who gave theories that contradicted       reality.                     -That's karma-       -       -       -       -       -       -       Sean Langille: During questioning from Special Counsel John Durham,       Brian Auten, a supervisory counter intelligence analyst with the FBI,              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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