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   BeamMeUpScotty to HangTextDrivers   
   Re: Congress orders rail workers back to   
   03 Dec 22 10:46:19   
   
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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 12/2/22 8:14 PM, HangTextDrivers wrote:   
   > 13A bans slavery and involuntary servitude.  case closed.  This also means   
   the military draft and forced jury duty are unconstitutional.  But the govt   
   ignores the constitution whenever it wants.   
   >   
   > https://usconstitution.net/xconst_Am13.html   
   >   
   > Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished   
   >   
   > 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for   
   crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the   
   United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.   
   >   
   > 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate   
   legislation.   
   >   
   ObamaCare was violation of Amendment 13 because it had forced enrollment   
   under penalty of law.  All be it a tax law that was a fee or tax it was   
   still a law. And that created the Chicken and the egg argument of can   
   you force someone with a law to join ObamaCare and create a penalty for   
   for not following that law when it is essentially a law that makes you a   
   Slave/Indentured servant to the law.   
      
   *except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been*   
   *duly convicted*   
      
   That clause in the 13th Amendment has a "logic" that denies that the law   
   can force you to become an ObamaCare participant by forcing you to   
   engage in commerce as a tax to buy their insurance, plus you would have   
   to already have been duly convicted of a crime, and not committing a   
   crime by ignoring their tax law.   
      
   When the USSC called ObamaCare a tax they were wrong... it was SLAVERY   
   law, and forcing someone into a punishment before they committed a crime   
   by making the tax dependent on obedience to the laws is NOT following   
   the *shall have been duly convicted* "logic" created by the 13th Amendment.   
      
   And then the USSC create another ruling that also applied to that   
   ObamaCare FRACTIONAL SLAVERY tax law...   
      
   "The individual mandate forces individuals into commerce precisely   
   because they elected to refrain from commercial activity," says Justice   
   Roberts. "Such a law cannot be sustained under a clause authorizing   
   Congress to 'regulate Commerce.'"   
      
   Which means The United States Government can't create tax laws forcing   
   you into Commerce with someone to force you into commerce or pay a fine   
   as a punishment when you have to be duly convicted of a crime before you   
   can be forced into slavery and NOT engaging in commerce is NOT a crime.   
      
   Amazing how Democrats will contort a thing to get what they want... Look   
   at how they twist and contort LOGIC and the Constitution, just lie to   
   you and get what they want.   
      
   It's almost poetic Justice when these same Marxist-Democrats do this to   
   their own unions, creating slavery in the United States all the while   
   feigning their distain for SLAVERY to get the voters approval.   
      
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   -That's Karma-   
      
   *IF YOU'RE READING THIS YOU ARE A SURVIVOR*   
   *The first rule of SURVIVAL CLUB* is we talk about it, we hate   
   censorship. Never trust what Democrats or Marxists tell you. Make them   
   prove it with actual verifiable facts and science. And if you didn't   
   find the duplicitous lies in what the Marxist-Democrats told you then   
   you didn't dig deep enough. The *Gruber* *Doctrine* is the   
   Marxist-Democrat plan that says it's "to the Democrats advantage to have   
   a lack of transparency and then lie about everything".   
   https://rumble.com/vkt8ld-call-it-the-stupidity-of-the-american-   
   oter-or-whatever.-how-libs-exploit-t.html   
      
   *The next rule of SURVIVAL CLUB* is   
   149 - Socialism fails, because Socialists presume to know my needs   
   better than I know them.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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