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   From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov   
      
   On 1/5/23 4:54 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:   
   > On Thu, 05 Jan 2023 02:47:07 +0000, Mitchell Holman   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> -hh wrote in   
   >> news:7007b01f-3b7f-44cb-a75c-4b10f4c178fen@googlegroups.com:   
   >>   
   >>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 2:21:48 PM UTC-5,   
   >>> governo...@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>> -hh wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:11:27 AM UTC-5,   
   >>>>> governo...@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> It astonishes me that they can be so 'selectively Luddite'. That   
   >>>>>> is, they have their computers, cellphones, big screen flat panels   
   >>>>>> with streaming services, polyester no iron shirts, chemical   
   >>>>>> fertilizers and pesticides, microwave ovens, "lightning" on tap at   
   >>>>>> the plug and all the rest, but cars that don't run on petroleum?   
   >>>>>> *Luddites run screaming into traffic with their hair on fire*   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'd suspect that it started with the ramp-up of the propaganda   
   >>>>> attacks conducted against the US...figure the convergence of Russia   
   >>>>> invading Georgia in 2008 and the Presidential Elections that year   
   >>>>> which exploited white supremacy as a trigger. From this perspective,   
   >>>>> the pre-2009 tech was all 'normal'/'traditional' and thus   
   >>>>> acceptable.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This has been going on a LOT longer than that.   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course, but I'm referring first to when these foreign intervention   
   >>> attempts became more effective and more widely known by the general   
   >>> public.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Cons have been here bitching about this or that new technology ever   
   >>>> since I first started using Usenet in the nineties. When they get to   
   >>>> vociferous, I ask them how far the want to go back.   
   >>>   
   >>> The fictional belief for what life in the USA was like when it had   
   >>> supposedly been previously 'Great' is the consequence of those seeds   
   >>> sown. Notice how the era of when that was has .. conveniently ..   
   >>> never been actually identified? What gets implied is something   
   >>> 1950s...which is pre-1964's Civil Rights laws.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> This is the question that stumps all   
   >> the MAGA's.   
   >>   
   >> When was America great before?   
   >>   
   >> Invariably they will cite a time   
   >> when liberal ideas and/or liberal   
   >> politicians held sway.   
   >   
   > *nodding*   
   >   
   > The fifties or sixties, the war years, even "life was better during   
   > the depression when people took care of each other."   
      
      
   I think you mean the roaring 20's when people had liberty and money in   
   their pockets before Liberalism and Progressivism overwhelmed the   
   Government.   
      
   But the decline was placed into motion in the Woodrow Wilson era and   
   around 1913 when government shipped out the men to WWI. It worked so   
   well that Franklin Roosevelt and those same Democrats did it again in   
   WWII so they could steal more from the NATION tan they did in the   
   depression that they extended and dragged out for a decade.   
      
   Wars allowed for greater theft of money and freedom with extra powers   
   less opposition and rationing and CAP and TRADE, Democrats made us a   
   military nation based on war and conquest. And the founders warned   
   against that and even limited the military funding to require no more   
   than funding for two years so that the military didn't become an   
   entrenched and permanent government fixture assuming we would get along   
   at least as often as we were in conflicts and NOT on a war time setting   
   more than NOT.   
      
   > The simple fact is, modern conservatism is just that, modern.   
   > "Liberalism" was the order of the day from Teddy's trust busting days   
   > before WWI to Reagan.   
      
      
   Wilson to Nixon... although it didn't take control in 1913 the seeds   
   were sewn in the Wilson era of Marxist "Progressivism" from around 1900   
   to 1917 when WWI was over. Then Republican Warren Harding came in and   
   solved a Democrats Depression in 1921 within about 18 months and kicked   
   off the roaring 20's. All leading to the Democrats destruction of   
   America starting in earnest 1932 when the Depression should have ben   
   over but FDR turned it into a decades long economic crushing chance for   
   another war since WWI worked out so well for Democrats/Marxists.   
      
      
   > Considering the GOP has had more control over government since 1995 at   
   > least than at any other time since 1930, it seems odd that the right   
   > would be complaining.   
      
   The Deep States other wise known as the Shadow Government was already in   
   place... they tried to eject the Communists in the 50's and failed. The   
    failed system of wars and taxes form the Marxist-Democrats was set in   
   motion in Wilson's Racist-Communist regime.   
      
   > Have all these Republican Congresses and   
   > Presidents since the seventies and eighties not been running things to   
   > suit Republicans?   
      
   Doesn't electing TRUMP just scream the fact that The Republicans in   
   recent years 1968, were falling short on their ability to implement a   
   real Republican policy.... the Presidents elected by the NATION keep   
   exhibiting a farther push to the RIGHT as Democrats and their SHADOW   
   GOVERNMENT are taking the NATION to the LEFT. The Republicans are   
   actually still fairly close to where they were in 1921 when they got   
   into office and kicked off the roaring 20's.   
      
   > Why then do they keep voting for Republicans?   
      
   To correct the stupidity and the fuck-ups of the Democrats. It's called   
   survival and why most Americans run back to republicans every so often   
   after a Depression shows them that Democrat policies are failed policies   
   like the EV policy/mandates.   
      
   When cost goes up and useful duty cycle goes down, it's a decrease in   
   efficiency and it's a step backwards, one step forward and two steps   
   back, when Democrats take those two steps backwards, people start to get   
   hungry and cold and question the Democrats claim to having any intelligence.   
      
   Face it, Democrats are idiots that use deception and graft to win   
   elections and then steal from the NATION until people become too cold   
   and hungry to put-up with the Democrats and vote them out, until   
   Democrats pointed their graft and corruption at the voting its self.   
      
   In the past voting corruption was less "organized" now they use tax   
      
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