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      XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.org.fbi, alt.privacy       XPost: alt.politics.immigration       From: d@ray              For years, the Department of Homeland Security has run a virtually unknown       program gathering domestic intelligence, one of many revelations in a       wide-ranging tranche of internal documents reviewed by POLITICO.              Those documents also reveal that a significant number of employees in DHS’s       intelligence office have raised concerns that the work they are doing could       be illegal.              Under the domestic-intelligence program, officials are allowed to seek       interviews with just about anyone in the United States. That includes       people held in immigrant detention centers, local jails, and federal       prison. DHS’s intelligence professionals have to say they’re conducting       intelligence interviews, and they have to tell the people they seek to       interview that their participation is voluntary. But the fact that they’re       allowed to go directly to incarcerated people — circumventing their lawyers       — raises important civil liberties concerns, according to legal experts.       That specific element of the program, which has been in place for years,       was paused last year because of internal concerns. DHS’s Office of       Intelligence and Analysis, which runs the program, uses it to gather       information about threats to the U.S., including transnational drug       trafficking and organized crime. But the fact that this low-profile office       is collecting intelligence by questioning people in the U.S. is virtually       unknown.              The inner workings of the program — called the “Overt Human Intelligence       Collection Program” — are described in the large tranche of internal       documents POLITICO reviewed from the Office of Intelligence and Analysis.       Those documents and additional interviews revealed widespread internal       concerns about legally questionable tactics and political pressure. The       documents also show that people working there fear punishment if they speak       out about mismanagement and abuses.              One unnamed employee — quoted in an April 2021 document — said leadership       of I&A’s Office of Regional Intelligence “is ‘shady’ and ‘runs like a       corrupt government.’” Another document said some employees worried so much       about the legality of their activities that they wanted their employer to       cover legal liability insurance.              Carrie Bachner, formerly the career senior legislative adviser to the DHS       under secretary for intelligence, said the fact that the agency is directly       questioning Americans as part of a domestic-intelligence program is deeply       concerning, given the history of scandals related to past       domestic-intelligence programs by the FBI.              Bachner, who served as a DHS liaison with Capitol Hill from 2006 to 2010,       said she told members of Congress “adamantly” — over and over and over       again — that I&A didn’t collect intelligence in the U.S.              “I don’t know any counsel in their right mind that would sign off on that,       and any member of Congress that would say, ‘That’s OK,’” said Bachner,       who       currently runs a consulting firm. “If these people are out there       interviewing folks that still have constitutional privileges, without their       lawyer present, that’s immoral.”              DHS Under Secretary for Intelligence and Analysis Kenneth Wainstein, a       former federal prosecutor who took the helm of I&A last June, said in a       statement that his office is addressing its employees’ concerns. An I&A       spokesperson provided POLITICO with a list of steps the office has taken       since September 2020 to address internal complaints, including conducting a       number of new trainings and hiring two full-time ombudsmen.              In its statement, I&A did not address the domestic-intelligence program.       But POLITICO reviewed an email, sent last August, saying that the portion       of the program involving interviews with prisoners who had received their       Miranda rights was “temporarily halted” because of internal concerns.              “The true measure of a government organization is its ability to persevere       through challenging times, openly acknowledge and learn from those       challenges, and move forward in service of the American people,” Wainstein       said in his statement. “The Office of Intelligence and Analysis has done       just that over the past few years ... Together, we will ensure that our       work is completely free from politicization, that our workforce feels free       to raise all views and concerns, and that we continue to deliver the       quality, objective intelligence that is so vital to our homeland security       partners.”              ‘A loophole that we exploit’              A key theme that emerges from internal documents is that in recent years,       many people working at I&A have said they fear they are breaking the law.              POLITICO reviewed a slide deck titled “I&A Management Analysis & Assistance       Program Survey Findings for FOD.” FOD refers to I&A’s Field Operations       Division — now called the Office of Regional Intelligence — which is the       largest part of the office, with personnel working around the country.       Those officials work with state, local and private sector partners; collect       intelligence; and analyze intelligence. When the U.S. faces a domestic       crisis related to national security or public safety, people in this       section are expected to be the first in I&A to know about it and then to       relay what they learn to the office’s leadership. Their focuses include       domestic terror attacks, cyber attacks, border security issues, and natural       disasters, along with a host of other threats and challenges.              The survey described in the slide deck was conducted in April 2021. A       person familiar with the survey said it asked respondents about events of       2020. Its findings were based on 126 responses. Half of the respondents       said they’d alerted managers of their concerns that their work involved       activity that was inappropriate or illegal. The slide deck seems to try to       put a positive spin on this.              “There is an opportunity to work with employees to address concerns they       have about the appropriateness or lawfulness of a work activity,” it reads.              “Half of the respondents have voiced to management a concern about this,       many of whom feel their concern was not appropriately addressed.”              Other documents laid out concerns related to a specific internal dispute       about how the law applies to I&A’s interactions with American citizens.              Three legal texts govern I&A’s activities: Title 50 of the U.S. Code, which       lays out laws about national security; Executive Order 12333, which details       how the Intelligence Community works; and the Homeland Security Act of              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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