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   Ubiquitous to nobody@nowhere.com   
   Re: Free Speech? Former White House Offi   
   26 Sep 25 13:08:55   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.tv.talkshows.late   
   From: weberm@polaris.net   
      
   In article <10b6cj8$13d6f$1@dont-email.me>, nobody@nowhere.com wrote:   
   > On 9/25/2025 6:29 PM, Rhino wrote:   
   >> On 2025-09-25 12:34 p.m., Ubiquitous wrote:   
      
   >>> The National Security Advisor during President Donald Trump's first   
   >>> term said he was asked to go on CBS's "The Late Show" with Stephen   
   >>> Colbert in 2024, but only if he would denounce Trump and tell the   
   >>> audience not to vote for him.   
   >>>   
   >>> Retired United States Army Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster made the   
   >>> revelation during a recent episode of the GoodFellows podcast, a weekly   
   >>> Hoover Institution broadcast. Moderator Bill Whalen mentioned that   
   >>> late shows have "drifted to the Left," which prompted McMaster's response.   
   >>>   
   >>> "When my book 'At War With Ourselves' came out, my publicist said,   
   >>> 'Hey, you know, the Stephen Colbert show said you could come on, but   
   >>> if you come on you have to condemn President Trump and recommend that   
   >>> nobody vote for him,'" McMaster said.   
   >>>   
   >>> The retired lieutenant general said it was an "easy choice" to decide   
   >>> against the appearance, but noted how it points to the political sway   
   >>> of late-night programs in general.   
   >>>   
   >>> "I don't know if it was just a producer or if it was Stephen Colbert   
   >>> directly, but you know, there has been this orthodoxy that has gripped   
   >>> late-night television. So many of these monologues, honestly...they're just   
   >>> like diatribes. They're not funny. Which might be why the ratings are going   
   >>> down."   
   >>>   
   >>> The controversy over late-night shows and free speech has reached a fever   
   >>> pitch, with leftists crying "censorship" and conservatives pointing   
   >>> out that this has been happening to right-wing entertainers for years.   
   ABC's   
   >>> late-night host, Jimmy Kimmel, was briefly taken off the air for spreading   
   >>> false information about Charlie Kirk's suspected assassin.   
   >>>   
   >>> All the other major late-night hosts, including Stephen Colbert, Jimmy   
   >>> Fallon, and Jon Stewart, spoke out in support of Kimmel, but are being   
   >>> labeled as hypocrites by anyone who noticed that they had previously   
   >>> been in favor of conservatives being silenced for perceived slights.   
   >>>   
   >>> Clips of Kimmel joking about Roseanne Barr's show getting canceled for   
   >>> controversial comments went viral just after he was suspended, with   
   >>> followers pointing out the blatant hypocrisy. Kimmel can also be seen   
   >>> celebrating President Trump being banned from X and Tucker Carlson getting   
   >>> fired from Fox News.   
   >>>   
   >>> McMaster said the answer isn't government "crackdowns," but letting low   
   >>> ratings bury the shows.   
   >>>   
   >> BINGO!!!   
   >>   
   >> And how about a little competition? Instead of only platforming left-   
   >> friendly right-hating hosts of these shows, pick someone who is   
   >> genuinely moderate or even openly right wing and then see who develops a   
   >> following.   
   >>   
   >> If the networks are still in business to make a profit, rather than   
   >> pissing money away on shows that lose millions but deliver The   
   >> Narrative, then they could program someone that might actually have a   
   >> substantial audience and make money via advertising they way they used to.   
   >>   
   >> Isn't Gutfeld's show doing pretty well? He certainly leans right so that   
   >> should be proof that a right-leaning show can be a money maker.   
   >>   
   >> Or program a genuine moderate - if you can find one - and see how that   
   >> goes against the likes of Kimmel, Colbert and Gutfeld.   
   >>> Representatives from 'The Late Show' did not respond to a request for   
   >>> comment.   
   >   
   >Late-night wants laughs, not provocation.   
      
   They certainly failed doing that.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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