XPost: alt.anonymous, alt.privacy.anon-server   
   From: fritz@spamexpire-202510.rodent.frell.theremailer.net   
      
   Nomen Nescio  wrote:   
   >On 25 Oct 2025, Radio Eriwan  posted some   
   >news:1761435073483161656.ac@radio-eriwan.ru:   
   >   
   >> Fritz Wuehler once wrote, without thinking too much beforehand:   
   >>> Radio Claashole  sent:   
   >>> > A stupid YAMN user wrote:   
   >>> > > Nomen Nescio  wrote:   
   >>> > > > On 24 Oct 2025, Anonymous  posted   
   >>> > > > some news:20251024.191615.6d53543f@yamn.paranoici.org:   
   >>> > > >   
   >>> > > > > [Spam] same [Spam] censoring [Spam] shit [Spam] different   
   >>> > > > > [Spam].   
   >>> > > > >   
   >>> > > > > Apparently it's okay for a particular sporging asshole to   
   >>> > > > > destroy groups and services for all, but not okay to use YAMN   
   >>> > > > > / neodome to counter the jerk.   
   >>> > > >   
   >>> > > > yamn is not so anonymous after all.   
   >>> > > >   
   >>> > > > what does that say about "anonymous messaging" hmm?   
   >>> > >   
   >>> > > Tor is an unsecure real-time system.   
   >>> > > Type I remailing fails to hide message size.   
   >>> > > Only Type II remailing (Mixmaster / YAMN) is secure!   
   >>> > >   
   >>> >   
   >>> > Did you know that YAMN/OmniMix users are the dumbest Usenet users?   
   >>>   
   >>>   We just know that you, fascist Claas, and your buddy GabX are the   
   >>> stupidest snake oil peddlers over here ignoring even the most basic   
   >>> principles of secure anonymous remailing. Good luck to your victims.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Ah, ok. So pseudonymous remailing with Mixmaster and YAMN, in your   
   >> eyes, is secure 'anonymous' remailing. Mind you, you must use Tor or   
   >> you would shit in your pants without it. So much for TypeII   
   >> 'anonymous' remailing.   
   >   
   >It all works with Tor.   No Tor, no work.   
      
   Remailers don't need Tor at all.  Tor was developed long after the   
   invention of anonymous remailing in order to have something similar for   
   from the anonymity perspective inherently problematic real-time (web)   
   communication.   
      
   You send some packets to the entry remailer and nobody can figure out   
   which mail message at some exit remailer they represent, if any, as you   
   just may have sent dummy packets. That isn't pseudonymity, it's true   
   anonymity no matter what shithead Claas tells you.   
      
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