XPost: alt.anonymous, alt.privacy.anon-server   
   From: noreply@mixmin.net   
      
   On 26 Oct 2025, Fritz Wuehler  posted some   
   news:20251026.174504.b9da8476@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:   
      
   > Nomen Nescio  wrote:   
   >>On 25 Oct 2025, Radio Eriwan  posted some   
   >>news:1761435073483161656.ac@radio-eriwan.ru:   
   >>   
   >>> Fritz Wuehler once wrote, without thinking too much beforehand:   
   >>>> Radio Claashole  sent:   
   >>>> > A stupid YAMN user wrote:   
   >>>> > > Nomen Nescio  wrote:   
   >>>> > > > On 24 Oct 2025, Anonymous  posted   
   >>>> > > > some news:20251024.191615.6d53543f@yamn.paranoici.org:   
   >>>> > > >   
   >>>> > > > > [Spam] same [Spam] censoring [Spam] shit [Spam] different   
   >>>> > > > > [Spam].   
   >>>> > > > >   
   >>>> > > > > Apparently it's okay for a particular sporging asshole to   
   >>>> > > > > destroy groups and services for all, but not okay to use YAMN   
   >>>> > > > > / neodome to counter the jerk.   
   >>>> > > >   
   >>>> > > > yamn is not so anonymous after all.   
   >>>> > > >   
   >>>> > > > what does that say about "anonymous messaging" hmm?   
   >>>> > >   
   >>>> > > Tor is an unsecure real-time system.   
   >>>> > > Type I remailing fails to hide message size.   
   >>>> > > Only Type II remailing (Mixmaster / YAMN) is secure!   
   >>>> > >   
   >>>> >   
   >>>> > Did you know that YAMN/OmniMix users are the dumbest Usenet users?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   We just know that you, fascist Claas, and your buddy GabX are the   
   >>>> stupidest snake oil peddlers over here ignoring even the most basic   
   >>>> principles of secure anonymous remailing. Good luck to your victims.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Ah, ok. So pseudonymous remailing with Mixmaster and YAMN, in your   
   >>> eyes, is secure 'anonymous' remailing. Mind you, you must use Tor or   
   >>> you would shit in your pants without it. So much for TypeII   
   >>> 'anonymous' remailing.   
   >>   
   >>It all works with Tor.   No Tor, no work.   
   >   
   > Remailers don't need Tor at all.  Tor was developed long after the   
   > invention of anonymous remailing in order to have something similar for   
   > from the anonymity perspective inherently problematic real-time (web)   
   > communication.   
      
   Tor was conceived and developed in the early / mid '90s.   
      
   Anonymous remailers emerged 92-94.   
      
   > You send some packets to the entry remailer and nobody can figure out   
   > which mail message at some exit remailer they represent, if any, as you   
   > just may have sent dummy packets. That isn't pseudonymity, it's true   
   > anonymity no matter what shithead Claas tells you.   
      
   Irrelevant.  There are other means to identify who sent something.   
      
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