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   Nomen Nescio to All   
   Re: [Spam] neodome [Spam] back [Spam] to   
   27 Oct 25 12:58:09   
   
   XPost: alt.anonymous, alt.privacy.anon-server   
   From: nobody@dizum.com   
      
   On 26 Oct 2025, Anonymous User  posted some   
   news:20251026.174307.a81d9797@dirge.harmsk.com:   
      
   > On 26 Oct 2025, Radio Eriwan  posted some   
   > news:1761498314806747104.7a@radio-eriwan.ru:   
   >   
   >> A pretty much lying Fritz Wuehler user wrote:   
   >>> Nomen Nescio  wrote:   
   >>> > On 25 Oct 2025, Radio Eriwan  posted   
   >>> > some news:1761435073483161656.ac@radio-eriwan.ru:   
   >>> >   
   >>> > > Fritz Wuehler once wrote, without thinking too much beforehand:   
   >>> > > > Radio Claashole  sent:   
   >>> > > > > A stupid YAMN user wrote:   
   >>> > > > > > Nomen Nescio  wrote:   
   >>> > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2025, Anonymous    
   >>> > > > > > > posted some   
   >>> > > > > > > news:20251024.191615.6d53543f@yamn.paranoici.org:   
   >>> > > > > > >   
   >>> > > > > > > > [Spam] same [Spam] censoring [Spam] shit [Spam]   
   >>> > > > > > > > different [Spam].   
   >>> > > > > > > >   
   >>> > > > > > > > Apparently it's okay for a particular sporging asshole   
   >>> > > > > > > > to destroy groups and services for all, but not okay to   
   >>> > > > > > > > use YAMN / neodome to counter the jerk.   
   >>> > > > > > >   
   >>> > > > > > > yamn is not so anonymous after all.   
   >>> > > > > > >   
   >>> > > > > > > what does that say about "anonymous messaging" hmm?   
   >>> > > > > >   
   >>> > > > > > Tor is an unsecure real-time system.   
   >>> > > > > > Type I remailing fails to hide message size.   
   >>> > > > > > Only Type II remailing (Mixmaster / YAMN) is secure!   
   >>> > > > > >   
   >>> > > > >   
   >>> > > > > Did you know that YAMN/OmniMix users are the dumbest Usenet   
   >>> > > > > users?   
   >>> > > >   
   >>> > > >   We just know that you, fascist Claas, and your buddy GabX are   
   >>> > > >   the   
   >>> > > > stupidest snake oil peddlers over here ignoring even the most   
   >>> > > > basic principles of secure anonymous remailing. Good luck to   
   >>> > > > your victims.   
   >>> > > >   
   >>> > >   
   >>> > > Ah, ok. So pseudonymous remailing with Mixmaster and YAMN, in   
   >>> > > your eyes, is secure 'anonymous' remailing. Mind you, you must   
   >>> > > use Tor or you would shit in your pants without it. So much for   
   >>> > > TypeII 'anonymous' remailing.   
   >>> >   
   >>> > It all works with Tor.   No Tor, no work.   
   >>>   
   >>> Remailers don't need Tor at all.  Tor was developed long after the   
   >>> invention of anonymous remailing in order to have something similar   
   >>> for from the anonymity perspective inherently problematic real-time   
   >>> (web) communication.   
   >>>   
   >>> You send some packets to the entry remailer and nobody can figure out   
   >>> which mail message at some exit remailer they represent, if any, as   
   >>> you just may have sent dummy packets. That isn't pseudonymity, it's   
   >>> true anonymity no matter what shithead Claas tells you.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> I think you are the liar and real shithead! Why? Because these   
   >> pseudonymous remailers are publicity run and known as old fashioned   
   >> TypeII clearnet smtp networks where Eve and her friends only need to   
   >> append the secret keys from remailers, to decrypt the incomming   
   >> messages at an entry.  This can be done with gag orders. If you would   
   >> know how the internals work from such old and outdated TypeII   
   >> technology you would not speak such rubbish.   
   >>   
   >> And secondly when looking at the pools Eve and her friends see in   
   >> clear the remailer packets and the To: header, while messages at exits   
   >> are held in an decrypted state.   
   >   
   > That's okay because the originator remains unknown.  The weak link is   
   > the receiver.  A little waterboarding and they'll talk.   
      
   you know this for fact do you?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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