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|    jojo to All    |
|    Re: "storming chruches"    |
|    24 Jan 26 15:16:24    |
      XPost: alt.usenet.kooks, alt.transgendered, alt.flame       XPost: alt.slack       From: f00@0f0.00f              % wrote:       > jojo wrote:       >> πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ Jen πππ»πΊ       Ήπ»ππ·πΊπ D ershmenderde       >> nden...den-den *jazz hands* ππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ       Άη¬πππ»πΊπΉπ»π       >> π·πΊπ wrote:       >>> Yes, ICE arrests at churches happen, especially since the       >>> Trump-Vance administration       >>> ended prior federal restrictions on enforcement at sensitive       >>> locations, allowing       >>> agents to enter public church areas (like lobbies, parking       >>> lots) with probable cause       >>> but needing warrants for private spaces, leading to increased       >>> controversy, lawsuits       >>> by religious groups, and community fear, with some pastors and       >>> activists pushing back       >>> against these actions as violations of religious freedom and       >>> due process.       >>> Why ICE Actions at Churches Have Increased       >>> Policy Shift: For years, there was a policy limiting       >>> immigration enforcement at       >>> places of worship, but this was reversed, granting ICE more       >>> discretion.       >>> "Public" vs. "Private" Areas: ICE can conduct arrests in       >>> public church areas (parking       >>> lots, entryways) without a warrant if they have probable       >>> cause, but judicial warrants       >>> are needed for private spaces (offices, confessionals).       >>> Examples & Controversies       >>> Lawsuits: Numerous denominations (Lutheran, Baptist, Quaker)       >>> sued the administration       >>> over these policy changes, citing arrests in parking lots and       >>> near preschools.       >>> Protests: Activists have disrupted services and protested at       >>> churches where officials       >>> involved in immigration enforcement are members, leading to       >>> DOJ investigations into       >>> potential civil rights violations.       >>> Community Fear: These actions cause anxiety among immigrant       >>> communities, with       >>> churches holding "Know Your Rights" sessions to help       >>> parishioners.       >>> What to Do If Stopped by ICE at a Church       >>> Know Your Rights: You can remain silent and don't have to sign       >>> anything.       >>> Demand a Warrant: Ask to see a judicial warrant before       >>> allowing entry into private       >>> areas.       >>> Contact a Lawyer: State clearly, "I want to speak to a lawyer".       >>> In essence, while houses of worship are considered sensitive       >>> locations, federal law       >>> allows for enforcement in public areas, leading to ongoing       >>> legal challenges and       >>> community tensions.       >>>       >>       >> i'm telling you, ice needs a proper uniform, it needs piccasso       >> crown.       >>       > shorts and beanies              i was thinking more along..... like hoodies and sweat pants. as a       super fashion desginer... their statement would be like.. i am       too cool to bother with formality.              piccasso crown will charge.... hmmm 450 for the hoodie pants       combo per iceicle. its super value for money.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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