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   phoenix wrote:   
   > jojo wrote:   
   >> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 19:17:37 +0000, jojo  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 09:20:46 -0700, %    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 07:37:54 -0700, %   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 06:03:14 -0700, %   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 18:17:26 -0700, %   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:48:45 +0000, "Doc Hammerslack"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:42:13 +0000, KKKernal Corn   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:31:02 +0000,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ??????????Jen??????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands*????????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:18:51 +0000, LO AND   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEHOLD; KKKernal Corn   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  determined that the following   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was of great   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importance to KKKernal Corn  and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequently   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to freely share it with us in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???? On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 09:44:22 -0600, phoenix   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote: ???? ????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????? On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:58:06 +0000,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ??????????Jen?????????? ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands*???????????????????? ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? Yes, ICE arrests at churches   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen, especially since   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Trump-Vance ???????????????? administration   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ended prior federal   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restrictions on enforcement at ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive locations,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing agents to enter public church areas   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (like ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lobbies, parking lots) with probable cause but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needing warrants for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? private spaces, leading to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increased controversy,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawsuits by religious ???????????????? groups,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and community fear, with   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some pastors and activists pushing   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? back against these   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actions as violations of religious freedom and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> due ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. Why ICE Actions at Churches Have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Increased Policy Shift:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For ???????????????? years, there was a policy   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limiting immigration   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement at places of ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worship, but this was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reversed, granting ICE more discretion. "Public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? vs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Private" Areas: ICE can conduct arrests in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public church areas   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? (parking lots, entryways)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without a warrant if they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have probable ???????????????? cause, but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judicial warrants are needed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for private spaces (offices, ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confessionals). Examples   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & Controversies Lawsuits: Numerous   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? denominations   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Lutheran, Baptist, Quaker) sued the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration over   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? these policy changes, citing   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrests in parking lots   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and near ???????????????? preschools. Protests:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Activists have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrupted services and protested ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at churches where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials involved in immigration enforcement are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members, leading to DOJ investigations into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential civil rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? violations. Community Fear:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These actions cause   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anxiety among immigrant ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communities, with churches   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding "Know Your Rights" sessions to help   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parishioners. What to Do If Stopped by ICE at a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Church Know Your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights: ???????????????? You can remain silent   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't have to sign   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. Demand a ???????????????? Warrant: Ask   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see a judicial   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warrant before allowing entry into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? private areas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact a Lawyer: State clearly, "I want to speak   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawyer". In essence, while houses of worship are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive ???????????????? locations, federal law   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement in public areas, leading   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? to ongoing legal   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenges and community tensions. ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't allow   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radical agitators.protestors to enter churches to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agitate/protest, though. ???????? SO basically   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's no law against   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it yet. I guess there will be in ???????? fifteen   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yrs. ???? ????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, there is. There's the federal FACE   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> act, in addition to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which ???? many states have thri own. ????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Origin: Passed after violent attacks on abortion   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s and 90s.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of right wing clinic bombers.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian opposition to pro-death (aka pro-choice)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortionists was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the moral high ground.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
      
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