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phoenix wrote:
> jojo wrote:
>> phoenix wrote:
>>> jojo wrote:
>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 19:17:37 +0000, jojo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 09:20:46 -0700, %
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 07:37:54 -0700, %
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 06:03:14 -0700, %
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 18:17:26 -0700, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:48:45 +0000, "Doc Hammerslack"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:42:13 +0000, KKKernal Corn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:31:02 +0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ??????????Jen??????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands*????????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:18:51 +0000, LO AND
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEHOLD; KKKernal Corn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> determined that the following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was of great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importance to KKKernal Corn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and subsequently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to freely share it with us in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???? On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 09:44:22 -0600, phoenix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: ???? ????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????? On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:58:06 +0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ??????????Jen?????????? ????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands*???????????????????? ????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? Yes, ICE arrests at churches
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen, especially since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Trump-Vance ???????????????? administration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ended prior federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restrictions on enforcement at ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive locations,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing agents to enter public church areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (like ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lobbies, parking lots) with probable cause but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needing warrants for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? private spaces, leading to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increased controversy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawsuits by religious ???????????????? groups,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and community fear, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some pastors and activists pushing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? back against these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actions as violations of religious freedom and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> due ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. Why ICE Actions at Churches Have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Increased Policy Shift:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For ???????????????? years, there was a policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limiting immigration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement at places of ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worship, but this was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reversed, granting ICE more discretion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Public" ???????????????? vs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Private" Areas: ICE can conduct arrests in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public church areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? (parking lots, entryways)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without a warrant if they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have probable ???????????????? cause, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judicial warrants are needed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for private spaces (offices, ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confessionals). Examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & Controversies Lawsuits: Numerous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? denominations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Lutheran, Baptist, Quaker) sued the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? these policy changes, citing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrests in parking lots
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and near ???????????????? preschools. Protests:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Activists have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrupted services and protested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? at churches where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials involved in immigration enforcement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members, leading to DOJ investigations into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential civil rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? violations. Community Fear:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These actions cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anxiety among immigrant ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communities, with churches
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding "Know Your Rights" sessions to help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parishioners. What to Do If Stopped by ICE at a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Church Know Your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights: ???????????????? You can remain silent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't have to sign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. Demand a ???????????????? Warrant:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ask to see a judicial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warrant before allowing entry into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? private areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact a Lawyer: State clearly, "I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak to a ????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawyer". In essence, while houses of worship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are considered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive ???????????????? locations, federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law allows for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement in public areas, leading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? to ongoing legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenges and community tensions. ????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radical agitators.protestors to enter churches
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agitate/protest, though. ???????? SO basically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's no law against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it yet. I guess there will be in ????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fifteen yrs. ???? ????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, there is. There's the federal FACE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> act, in addition to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which ???? many states have thri own. ????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Origin: Passed after violent attacks on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion clinics in the
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